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Old 08-27-2022, 03:39 PM
 
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I'm not seeing where it says he'd stopped cooperating after February.


In Jan, they said they'd keep looking.
In June, the feds show up with a subpoena. What your link doesn't say is why they felt the need to have a subpoena. Why didn't they call or just show up and ask if anything else had been found? There was nothing to show that Trump and his team weren't cooperating with finding stuff. Was the subpoena for show? We seem to be missing some context here.

Media reports that the feds did take some documents at that time. Unknown if the documents were ones that team Trump had found, that the feds had found or if it from the findings of both teams. It was reported that Trump and his team were cooperating. The feds could have continued to look, but it wasn't reported why they didn't.

Most likely the lawyer worded the letter as "to the best of my knowledge", which might have been true, who knows at this point.



M'kay.

Seems that the left had ridiculed Trump for being old and out of shape, that he doesn't do anything but sit around all day watching tv, that he won't walk anywhere, that he can't even walk down a ramp...but he's spry enough to pack and move heavy boxes? hmmm.

Most likely it was done by the transition team that the GSA had placed there to do it.
He didn't respond to the subpoena, because the still had the documents. The FBI had to come and retrieve the documents. If he were cooperating, he would have returned them in January when the NARA contacted him. He would have returned them at any point in time after that, especially after the FBI came to see him. And he most certainly would not have had his lawyer sign a letter saying they were returned when they weren't. Why would he lie like that?

A cursory glance around the premises would have shown that the documents were still there. The attorney is trying to use the "to the best of my knowledge" ploy, which is unlikely to play out well for her/him.

 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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But it's not a presidential residence. He's not a president. He wasn't president the days those documents arrived at Mar-A-Lago.
Wait wait wait, didn’t your fbi buddies reference hot intel from CBS that moving trucks with boxes were observed at MAL on January 18th?
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:47 PM
 
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Wait wait wait, didn’t your fbi buddies reference hot intel from CBS that moving trucks with boxes were observed at MAL on January 18th?
I have no idea. The fact of the matter is he was contacted by NARA in January. As of August 8th he still had classified documents at his residence despite his attorneys asserting otherwise.
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Bingo.


Also:


Karl Rove says he believes the informant against Trump was a Secret Service Agent: “They are sworn Fed law enforcement officers, and they have a responsibility to report a crime.”

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...FsvjLbUTbEhwrw


To be honest, that makes perfect sense and I hate that I agree with Rove on something.
The problem with your assertion is, as a federal le, the plain view doctrine would apply and he could have taken action on the spot, if a federal statute was violated.
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:49 PM
 
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I have no idea. The fact of the matter is he was contacted by NARA in January. As of August 8th he still had classified documents at his residence despite his attorneys asserting otherwise.
It’s in the affidavit, guess you haven’t read it.

That’s why most of your assertions are wrong.
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:49 PM
 
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The problem with your assertion is, as a federal le, the plain view doctrine would apply and he could have taken action on the spot, if a federal statute was violated.
Since it was unprecedented that a former president had ever absconded with classified documents before, they had to be methodical. Thus, the visits from the FBI, the subpoena, etc. Garland had to make sure he had an iron clad reason for doing what he did.
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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How can you say there was overreach with the search warrant? The items specified in the warrant were found. That means the govt had solid intelligence about where the documents were stored. Trump was caught with the stolen goods.

Regarding unlawful search and seizure... what made it unlawful in your opinion?

You seem to be reaching for some justification to save your leader from himself. SMH.
No I recognize I'm not an attorney. The reason the FBI knew where the documents were was due to the fact they had been "guests" of the President in the many months before the break in.

Not at all reaching. The opinions which have been shared in the WSJ, Newsweek, Fox, CNN, and BBC are solid on the part that a general warrant was highly unusual. As such if they took items which the warrant did not cover it is an unlawful search.

This will be in court for years. If they indict Mr. Trump they will be doing him the greatest favor. He will be transported into the Presidency once again. Call me looney or an optimist....even people who don't like him will vote for him if they try to turn him into a martyr.

The rest of us who [really like him] flaws and all already know he's the best hope for our country.

MAGA
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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Listening to MSNBC now and apparently Trump’s attorneys have not met the deadline to file a legitimate request to have a Special Master appointed to review these documents—
If that is true then the 3 new sealed documents filed today were not from Trump’s people
Leaving only one other source—the DoJ…

And if they were sealed then obviously there is new information that needs to be kept out of the spotlight

Inquiring minds want to know—who, what, and why….
Some call it the do over motion https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...18763.28.0.pdf
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:53 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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But it's not a presidential residence. He's not a president. He wasn't president the days those documents arrived at Mar-A-Lago.
Yes, it was a presidential residence. He doesn't live inside the club. Unless you can prove that he'd moved from one of the outer residential buildings and into the club?
 
Old 08-27-2022, 03:54 PM
 
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Wait wait wait, didn’t your fbi buddies reference hot intel from CBS that moving trucks with boxes were observed at MAL on January 18th?
That was mentioned, yes, but there was a lot of redactions after that so we do not know the full details surrounding those trucks and why they were part of the affidavit.
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