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I must tell you all that the past six years have revealed a country that I do not recognize as the United States of America.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Elect a corrupt leader, what do you expect? That corrupt leader in turn appoints a corrupt attorney general, Bill Barr, what do you expect? That corrupt attorney general misrepresents the Mueller Report - which stated The Donald absolutely did obstruct justice - to the public - to the point where Mueller needs to publicly object - what do you expect?
The Donald has shown the entire world how easily our system can be manipulated and turned on its head. Firing people who insist on applying the law. Hiring people who will bend and circumvent the law.
We've all got a good lesson how crooks operate.
Yes, indeed, the corrupt Donald Trump has shown the entire world how absolute power corrupts absolutely - especially when he gets an assist from the chief law enforcement officer of the nation.
One would need to see the affidavit to see what was listed and then read the warrant. Latest news is that they collected medical records and tax records.
Yes, I heard that too. I've also read that the investigation team have already set aside those items that were personal/attorney-client privilege.
As the judge said, she has not seen anything in the DOJ investigation that would suggest an infringement of Trump's constitutional rights.
Maybe someone on the left can answer these questions...
In the photo op, where the FBI had thrown documents on Trump's floor and took a photo of them, there's a number of documents with the header "Top Secret/SCI". Yet, the feds own inventory list shows no documents with that header.
Nope, not a SCI among them^. Yet we all saw with our own eyes that they were right there on that floor in that photo, right?
Where did these alleged "Top Secret/SCI" documents go to after they were seized by the feds?
Did those with the FBI, or Garland himself, steal those alleged "Top Secret/SCI" documents, maybe to sell to other countries? And then altered the inventory list to remove them before the list went public?
Were those docs even actually in those boxes to begin with?
They were in the inventory, just left off the suffix and now you've created another conspiracy.
But you actually brought up a good point, there is a distribution system with documents labeled SCI so there is a formal distribution which is controlled, and they know when something goes missing or is destroyed.
Top Secret/SCI
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SCI - Sensitive Compartmented Information, a broad term for intelligence information that requires a formal system to control its distribution.
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One would need to see the affidavit to see what was listed and then read the warrant. Latest news is that they collected medical records and tax records.
Link? We have seen the warrant and most of the affidavit. We have also seen the detailed inventory of what was collected.
So where is your proof of medical and tax records?
Link? We have seen the warrant and most of the affidavit. We have also seen the detailed inventory of what was collected.
So where is your proof of medical and tax records?
I heard that they found those among the documents seized. Those may have been the records they have already put aside, separate and apart from their investigation.
The bottom line is there are classified and top secret documents that were found in Mar-A-Lago. Those documents will not be able to be ascribed attorney/client or executive privilege, and the DOJ's criminal statutes that they used to have the warrant issued will still be intact and in force. The investigation will just be delayed now because of the special master issue. I still don't understand how a special master will be needed to determine executive privilege, as Trump has no executive privilege over the top secret and classified documents that were seized. Guess Cannon is just trying to appease him.
The damage assessment investigation is still ongoing.
If it turns out that the documents were part of an illegal search then they are fruit from the poisonous tree and can't even be used to convict him. THAT is the point y'all are missing.
The Special Master isn't there to determine if the search was illegal, that is up to the judge and the courts. The Special Master is there to review the documents that belong to the National Archives for Executive Privilege.
So this is a review of documents that don't belong to the president for a claim by an ex-president for executive privilege, you just can't make this up. But here we go.
I don't see how executive privilege has any meaning. If there had been any documents that had fit the definition of executive privilege while he was President, those items would belong in NARA's care anyway. Trump would not get to keep them.
There is no legal basis for this ruling. This judge has just sullied her career on the bench, and so early on in her career, too. She will be a laughingstock among her peers. I hope the momentary good feel of being able to suck up to DT is worth her reputation. Idiot.
Meanwhile, here's a good thread that outlines exactly why this ruling is so very bad. Read the whole thread for a comprehensive argument.
"Unless the federalist society wants to argue that this precedent would only apply to trump, this ruling would demolish future white collar criminal investigations…"
Yes, I heard that too. I've also read that the investigation team have already set aside those items that were personal/attorney-client privilege.
As the judge said, she has not seen anything in the DOJ investigation that would suggest an infringement of Trump's constitutional rights.
The warrant made it clear that materials surrounding those being sought could be seized. It's clear the DOJ has been extremely careful and really didn't want to have to take the route they did. Their hand was forced by the onging deception from the Trump camp. From everything I've read there's been no credible argument by anyone that the search itself might have been illegal.
Elect a corrupt leader, what do you expect? That corrupt leader in turn appoints a corrupt attorney general, Bill Barr, what do you expect? That corrupt attorney general misrepresents the Mueller Report - which stated The Donald absolutely did obstruct justice - to the public - to the point where Mueller needs to publicly object - what do you expect?
The Donald has shown the entire world how easily our system can be manipulated and turned on its head. Firing people who insist on applying the law. Hiring people who will bend and circumvent the law.
We've all got a good lesson how crooks operate.
Yes, indeed, the corrupt Donald Trump has shown the entire world how absolute power corrupts absolutely - especially when he gets an assist from the chief law enforcement officer of the nation.
Link? We have seen the warrant and most of the affidavit. We have also seen the detailed inventory of what was collected.
So where is your proof of medical and tax records?
That doesn't match an obviously doctored "crime scene" photo.
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