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Old 09-17-2022, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Does Trump have photos of this guy molesting children or something? Graham's behavior seems a little erratic these days.
Either a dead girl or a live boy, near as we can yell.

 
Old 09-17-2022, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Why would you need a law preventing killing a viable fetus? Do you really think that any sane woman would ask for, or participate in the abortion of her baby that could exist outside of the womb? How could anyone have that little faith in women? There are babies who are born with medical issues that would prevent them from living more than a few hours or a few days. In those cases I think the mother and the doctor should decide how to proceed, not Lindsey Graham for heaven's sake!
Yep.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 03:27 PM
 
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Does Trump have photos of this guy molesting children or something? Graham's behavior seems a little erratic these days.
Graham's cosponsor Marco Rubio is either coming to his rescue or they conspired on this strategy beforehand.

This link describes an email sent out by Rubio staff to news media giving them an assignment to quiz Dems on any limits they would place on abortion as well as other things they want to put on record. Along with a due date for them to respond lol or face some sort of punishment in the public square by Rubio.

Seems clear from this stunt and the talking points here that their plan is to paint their position as reasonable and the Democrats position as unreasonable.

Could also be a strategy all the Republicans are in on. In the past, McConnell said he wouldn't have a vote on federal legislation because they didn't have the votes to pass it, not due to states rights issue.

Also, they had to get the extreme so called pro-life folks on board. The women flanking Graham at his announcement were women in charge of the largest organizations representing that view. One of them was quoted as saying Graham cleared the way for this with other republicans and Mitch knew about it.

Having said all that, Rubio could just be using Graham for help in his own race against Val Demings which has turned into a dead heat. He is currently pounding this same message in local ads.

https://news.yahoo.com/read-weird-em...204129779.html
 
Old 09-17-2022, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Graham's cosponsor Marco Rubio is either coming to his rescue or they conspired on this strategy beforehand.

This link describes an email sent out by Rubio staff to news media giving them an assignment to quiz Dems on any limits they would place on abortion as well as other things they want to put on record. Along with a due date for them to respond lol or face some sort of punishment in the public square by Rubio.

Seems clear from this stunt and the talking points here that their plan is to paint their position as reasonable and the Democrats position as unreasonable.

Could also be a strategy all the Republicans are in on. In the past, McConnell said he wouldn't have a vote on federal legislation because they didn't have the votes to pass it, not due to states rights issue.

Also, they had to get the extreme so called pro-life folks on board. The women flanking Graham at his announcement were women in charge of the largest organizations representing that view. One of them was quoted as saying Graham cleared the way for this with other republicans and Mitch knew about it.

Having said all that, Rubio could just be using Graham for help in his own race against Val Demings which has turned into a dead heat. He is currently pounding this same message in local ads.

https://news.yahoo.com/read-weird-em...204129779.html
Well, I hope they have an easier time getting their question of what, if any restrictions on abortions Dems would support than I did in this thread.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 03:52 PM
 
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Why would you need a law preventing killing a viable fetus? Do you really think that any sane woman would ask for, or participate in the abortion of her baby that could exist outside of the womb? How could anyone have that little faith in women? There are babies who are born with medical issues that would prevent them from living more than a few hours or a few days. In those cases I think the mother and the doctor should decide how to proceed, not Lindsey Graham for heaven's sake!
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Yep.
No woman who doesn’t want a baby is gonna stay pregnant, intentionally not have an easy to get first trimester abortion. Intentionally skip a second trimester abortion which is more complicated and costly than one done earlier. Then opt to wait until she is close to delivery to abort, especially considering finding a doctor to do LTA is difficult as not many preform them. Jump through the hoops of having two doctors sign off. Which they wouldn’t do as the pregnancy is healthy. This fantasy woman would also have to explain to all who have watched her pregnancy develop to the point of birth why she aborted her baby so late. It just doesn’t happen.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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No woman who doesn’t want a baby is gonna stay pregnant, intentionally not have an easy to get first trimester abortion. Intentionally skip a second trimester abortion which is more complicated and costly than one done earlier. Then opt to wait until she is close to delivery to abort, especially considering finding a doctor to do LTA is difficult as not many preform them. Jump through the hoops of having two doctors sign off. Which they wouldn’t do as the pregnancy is healthy. This fantasy woman would also have to explain to all who have watched her pregnancy develop to the point of birth why she aborted her baby so late. It just doesn’t happen.
If they’re not done, why do clinics advertise that they do them - some even say you don’t need a reason?
 
Old 09-17-2022, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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No woman who doesn’t want a baby is gonna stay pregnant, intentionally not have an easy to get first trimester abortion. Intentionally skip a second trimester abortion which is more complicated and costly than one done earlier. Then opt to wait until she is close to delivery to abort, especially considering finding a doctor to do LTA is difficult as not many preform them. Jump through the hoops of having two doctors sign off. Which they wouldn’t do as the pregnancy is healthy. This fantasy woman would also have to explain to all who have watched her pregnancy develop to the point of birth why she aborted her baby so late. It just doesn’t happen.
Worth repeating.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 04:02 PM
 
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If they’re not done, why do clinics advertise that they do them - some even say you don’t need a reason?
You don’t need a reason for an early abortion. You do need either a fetal anomaly or your health in danger for a LTA. Try calling a LTA clinic tell them you’re 8.5 months along with a healthy baby and want to abort. You won’t be getting an appointment.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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You don’t need a reason for an early abortion. You do need either a fetal anomaly or your health in danger for a LTA. Try calling a LTA clinic tell them you’re 8.5 months along with a healthy baby and want to abort. You won’t be getting an appointment.
https://dupontclinic.com/services/ab...fter-26-weeks/


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If you are 26 weeks or later into your pregnancy, we can still see you, regardless of your medical history, background, or fetal indications. We do not require any particular “reason” to be seen here – if you would like to terminate your pregnancy, we support you in that decision.
 
Old 09-17-2022, 04:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui View Post
No woman who doesn’t want a baby is gonna stay pregnant, intentionally not have an easy to get first trimester abortion. Intentionally skip a second trimester abortion which is more complicated and costly than one done earlier. Then opt to wait until she is close to delivery to abort, especially considering finding a doctor to do LTA is difficult as not many preform them. Jump through the hoops of having two doctors sign off. Which they wouldn’t do as the pregnancy is healthy. This fantasy woman would also have to explain to all who have watched her pregnancy develop to the point of birth why she aborted her baby so late. It just doesn’t happen.
Do you remember Kermit Gosnell?

He basically took the live babies and snipped the bottom of the brain stem to KILL them.

Yes, women came in at 8 and 9 months pregnant for ABORTIONS.

Again:

Pro abortioner posters are the most dishonest posters.

The believe what they want to believe. No more. No less.
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