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Old 09-16-2022, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Your main issue seems to be the fictional abortion at birth narrative. If that is not designed to be emotional and to play on people's emotions, I don't know what is!
Nope. That poster is very emotional.

There are topics that are very personal to me that I will never debate here - because it can’t be done with a clear head.

 
Old 09-16-2022, 04:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Chuckity View Post
And abortion on demand til birth is moderate?
Abortion on demand is a misnomer as you use it. Try to make an appointment for a LTA 9.5 months into a healthy pregnancy. You can’t because no doctor would preform one. Women don’t change their minds that late in a pregnancy. No limit is to ensure government doesn’t get into the medical business between a woman and her doctor.
 
Old 09-16-2022, 04:51 PM
 
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Do you think a woman who has a perfectly healthy baby and is perfectly healthy herself should be able to abort a baby at 7 months?
Asked and answered Venice, numerous times.
 
Old 09-16-2022, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Originally Posted by Wolverine607 View Post
The GOP cannot ban abortion nationwide with Biden as president.
So, screw states' rights, then?

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Originally Posted by FordBronco1967 View Post
however, I think most Americans would agree with a fifteen week restriction on abortion.
I would not agree. There are some instances where the fetus being "incompatible with life" are not discovered until after 15 weeks. Requiring those parents to carry the fetus to term, if they do not choose to do so, is cruel and inhumane.

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Originally Posted by Chuckity View Post
The left's line in the sand is nothing short of abortion on demand til birth.
This bit of hyperemotional hyperbole must die a thorough death. How are you fabricating this nonsense, anyway?

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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Surely you did not think that women who were mostly minding their own business were going to agree to going back to second class citizens? Or maybe you did.
SUBMIT.



Yeah, that's not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by kj1065 View Post
Nobody ever wants to believe that an educated, happily-married woman in the suburbs with a perfectly decorated nursery and a baby name all picked out needs an abortion. It just shatters all those preconceptions, doesn't it? Cognitive dissonance indeed. So back we go to, "it's only 1%, and they don't matter."
Some folks seem to believe that the only women who seek abortions are women who have multiple partners on multiple days, and laugh in the face of available birth control.

I'm sorry for your loss. I can't imagine.

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Originally Posted by Chuckity View Post
No. Because your posts on the topic are always emotional.
Oh, the irony.

Let me tell you, abortion is a hard decision to make. No woman ever makes it lightly. Abortion is an emotional business.

Your previous posts in this thread certainly get emotional. Yet no one else should get emotional about it? Yeah, bullcrap.

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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Your main issue seems to be the fictional abortion at birth narrative. If that is not designed to be emotional and to play on people's emotions, I don't know what is!
Exactly. Nevermind that there is no "abortion at birth" narrative anyway.
 
Old 09-16-2022, 04:52 PM
 
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Nope. That poster is very emotional.

There are topics that are very personal to me that I will never debate here - because it can’t be done with a clear head.
I do have a clear head, and my posts are not overly-emotional. They are realistic, and I have pointed out over and over again that a danger of Graham's bill is that it will force women to rely on blood tests with a high rate of false positives when making a decision about terminating pregnancy rather than waiting until after fifteen weeks for testing with much higher specificity. It will paradoxically make it more likely that women will abort healthy, wanted pregnancies. Graham's bill is based entirely on emotion. Read the preface. It's one emotional appeal after another after another.


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Some folks seem to believe that the only women who seek abortions are women who have multiple partners on multiple days, and laugh in the face of available birth control.

I'm sorry for your loss. I can't imagine.
Thank you. Chuckity seems to believe that anyone who has had an abortion has nothing of value to contribute to the discussion.
 
Old 09-16-2022, 05:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kj1065 View Post
I do have a clear head, and my posts are not overly-emotional. They are realistic, and I have pointed out over and over again that a danger of Graham's bill is that it will force women to rely on blood tests with a high rate of false positives when making a decision about terminating pregnancy rather than waiting until after fifteen weeks for testing with much higher specificity. It will paradoxically make it more likely that women will abort healthy, wanted pregnancies. Graham's bill is based entirely on emotion. Read the preface. It's one emotional appeal after another after another.



Thank you. Chuckity seems to believe that anyone who has had an abortion has nothing of value to contribute to the discussion.
For many posters here all you have to be, is a pro choice woman who speaks her mind. You’re labeled a radical murdering feminazi
 
Old 09-16-2022, 05:05 PM
 
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Nope. That poster is very emotional.

There are topics that are very personal to me that I will never debate here - because it can’t be done with a clear head.
The situation she describes is a real one. She explains it quite rationally and eloquently for people who don't understand it.

When I hear a man splaining to a woman that she is too emotional, I always know he is out of facts to debate. Just saying.
 
Old 09-16-2022, 05:12 PM
 
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If those 3rd trimester healthy abortions don’t happen - then you should have no issue saying they shouldn’t be allowed.

Also, I’m not going to engage with you on a personal level regarding your experience.
Exactly.
 
Old 09-16-2022, 05:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
Your main issue seems to be the fictional abortion at birth narrative. If that is not designed to be emotional and to play on people's emotions, I don't know what is!
It's a statement of fact.

If the fact makes you emotional? Maybe think about why.
 
Old 09-16-2022, 05:17 PM
 
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I agree that third-trimester abortions of healthy fetuses should not happen, and fortunately, they don't.
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