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Old 09-22-2022, 09:42 PM
 
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I think the subject matter of this thread is going right over your head.
Show me the law or do everybody a favor - be quiet.

 
Old 09-22-2022, 09:43 PM
 
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Retired Justice currently acting as special master recommended and agreed to by Trump says you are wrong and documents marked classified stay classified until someone proves otherwise.
Opinion is like a hole - everybody has one. Where’s the law?
 
Old 09-22-2022, 09:56 PM
 
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If a president were to give an interview and inadvertently or intentionally talk about information from a classified document, he would effectively be declassifying that document........by action, not thought.

The difference in this vs thinking a document into a declassified state is that the process would kick in. Staff and/or agencies watching the interview would realize what he has done and take action to relabel the documents and mitigate any damage done by releasing the information in a public setting.

Trump likely knows this and is either ignorantly or intentionally conflating the two things to defend himself.....at least in the court of opinion. He and his lawyers refuse to make this argument in a real court.
 
Old 09-22-2022, 09:59 PM
 
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If a president were to give an interview and inadvertently or intentionally talk about information from a classified document, he would effectively be declassifying that document........by action, not thought.

The difference in this vs thinking a document into a declassified state is that the process would kick in. Staff and/or agencies watching the interview would realize what he has done and take action to relabel the documents and mitigate any damage done by releasing the information in a public setting.

Trump likely knows this and is either ignorantly or intentionally conflating the two things to defend himself.....at least in the court of opinion. He and his lawyers refuse to make this argument in a real court.
You are correct!
 
Old 09-22-2022, 10:08 PM
 
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Y'all keep hoping. It keeps y'all busy. Not everyone is as crooked and corrupt as your lying and denying people. Biden/Harris tell us on a regular basis that the border is safe. They lie lie lie. You can't believe a thing they say. They make up stuff expecting us to believe them. What idiots.

Did Trump allow all this Fentanyl in our country to kill Americans? Did Trump pull of of Afghanistan and had 13 soldiers killed? Did Trump have wide open borders to allow terrorists and rapists into our country to kill Americans? Did Trump have a son that was doped up and into prostitution and colluded with the big guy? Did Trump show weakness and get Ukraine and Russia in a war that killed many people? You ever think your guy Biden will ever have to be accountable for anything? Of course not. He is untouchable. He makes life for many Americans miserable. People can't afford anything and crime is rampant but y'all keep on supporting your great guy.
I’ll take that as a “no”. Very enlightening response…completely predictable.
 
Old 09-22-2022, 10:21 PM
 
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You are correct!
OK......so what action do you think results in the documents in Trumps possession being declassified?
 
Old 09-22-2022, 10:23 PM
 
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OK......so what action do you think results in the documents in Trumps possession being declassified?
He took them home.
 
Old 09-22-2022, 10:51 PM
 
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He took them home.
I don't think that will fly. No judge is going to accept that because as a departing President the documents were not his to take home to keep.

Maybe if he took them during his Presidency to work on and they just piled up at MAL he could craft a ridiculous defense out of that.

Every indication is these were moved illegally to keep. He as much as said that when Hannity asked him how they were packed. And, there are probably mover's stickers or markings on the boxes that match an inventory in GSA's possession.
 
Old 09-22-2022, 11:25 PM
 
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The mere action of bringing a classified document to his home meant he declassified it.
So - people can file for FOIA insight in every doc that Trump took with him to Maraligalago? They're declassified and all.
 
Old 09-22-2022, 11:38 PM
 
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Bottom line?? Trump will never be president again.
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