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BUT the reaity -- that wasn't what propelled him to win. So what if the liberal media didn't like him, conservative media never like the Democrat candidate.
Blaming the media for how people didn't approve of Trump implies that the majority of people aren't able to read through the bias. We can. I agree -- the bashing of Trump on the political talk show circuit on most of the media and some people enjoyed it, but it isn't why Trump lost in 2020.
If people could read threw bias there wouldn't be millions of brain damaged people who succumbed to the covid propaganda.
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Meh turnout in metro Milwaukee kept Johnson afloat. As a whole turnout from minorities in metro areas was not great. Had it been better the Dems would have pulled off one insane upset this cycle but many likely stayed home assuming this was not really gonna be in play. The GOP I’m sure has learned you never want to rile up the 18-29 crowd again because that was their problem group here. I’m not sold Trump was the issue at all as many think
Both of your takes are spot on.
Dems failed to turnout their own base in cities and metros, and will likely be why they dont keep the House(NY and California races)
18-29 crowd is going to be why Dems flipped the Michigan legislature, also, thats going to be a giant call for fair maps . Alabama and Louisiana cases could mean maps in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas get redrawn. You could get 11 Safe NEW Dem seats out of those states come 2024, not to mention the Ohio Map is going to be redrawn again, and even though Dems did win the contested race in North Carolina, that map will change as well, possibly making an even safer Wake County seat.
If we can limp towards a house victory I can cope with the rest. If the house stays along with the senate, it will be a very long two more years. I would never imagine a time where people couldn’t afford groceries but electing to keep the same people in full power. There is a lot to think about, congratulations if your a democrat, but we’re all in this together at the end of the day.
My guess at this point is the GOP winds up with the majority, albeit one at or even slightly less than the Democrats majority.
Without turning this into a policy thread (we have other threads o the board for it), part of it likely came down to the fact that it wasn't like the GOP offered solutions on combatting inflation and/or the thought that many factors have led to inflation, outside of the realm of politics.
There most certainly is some truth to that. How many hundreds of thousands of Republicans have moved out of New York, over the last ten years, that would have made the difference?
A lot of people have moved out of New York recently. But not just Republicans - is there any data that shows more Republicans than Democrats leaving the state? Mostly they are retirees or soon to be retired. These older people want a warmer climate and lower taxes, irrespective of what party they belong to.
An amazingly flat election result. Little change, although I suspect GOP will get House due to NY uncalled races where they lead with almost no vote left to count.
It looks like they should get the house but there is this
Getting to 218 is tougher than it looks for Democrats if races are uncorrelated (i.e. just a bunch of independent coin flips). However, they probably *are* correlated. If Democrats beat Upshot projections in California, it gets interesting, for instance.
The late vote in CA favors the Dems and then there is Boebert who's looking shaky. It will be a week before we know the House Results.
A lot of people have moved out of New York recently. But not just Republicans - is there any data that shows more Republicans than Democrats leaving the state? Mostly they are retirees or soon to be retired. These older people want a warmer climate and lower taxes, irrespective of what party they belong to.
I'd love to see the breakdown, because like you, I'm not convinced it's one party over the other, especially when it comes to retirees.
I have a stake in a retirement community in FL, and we have seen lots of northern relocations over the last 20 years. Most all of them chalk it up to the two things you mentioned -- warmer weather, and much lower taxes. If I were in my 70s, I'd rather have FL Januarys than the weather in upstate NY at the same time.
I see as of right now that Boebert is slightly behind in the count. I know that could change, but how wonderful to see that there is a possibility she will be back working full time at her diner come 2023.
While it still looks like the GOP will take the House, if it winds up being 218-217 Dem with Boebert losing, that would be icing on the cake.
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