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Old 11-27-2022, 10:04 AM
 
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21% of Americans have not even received a single dose. How many people even care anymore?
They cared a lot when the vaccine came out. They loved demonizing people who refused.

 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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They cared a lot when the vaccine came out. They loved demonizing people who refused.
I saw more of a reaction to the fear of being demonized than any actual demonization.
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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I saw more of a reaction to the fear of being demonized than any actual demonization.
People lost jobs over it. Lost educational opportunities. Sports opportunities, camps, etc.
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:53 AM
 
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I'll ask the same question I've asked in other threads... How is changing laws to reduce the killing of 450,000 females per year "removing women's rights?" Do tell...

Looks to me like that preserves women's rights. ...Or did you forget that abortion kills about 450,000 females per year?
Women should have the right in every state to self determination.
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:54 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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People lost jobs over it. Lost educational opportunities. Sports opportunities, camps, etc.
I don't know anyone like that. I know plenty of people that were claiming discrimination because they didn't want the vaccine and running their mouths. Meanwhile I work with people who said nothing but just never got around to it. I'm vaccinated and haven't been asked or forced to show proof. No one was ever going to hold you down and vaccinate anyone. Reasonable accommodations were made.

I saw those same people were too anti social to put a dang mask over their face in an attempt to slow the spread throughout their community because they thought it didn't help. The virus was new. We didn't know what would or would not work. Putting a cloth over your face is a low cost solution so it wouldn't require some grand efficacy. But for some reason (tied to autonomy but without the filter of pro-social applied) a big deal was made over this. Solo driver's in cars wearing a mask was somehow intolerable. Mask-wears became some outgroup to be despised. They did that. The animosity is on them. Everyone else is trying to accommodate them but they virtue signaled to 17 year old stock boys.

Can you see how all of that might look to people that are highly pro social?
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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C'mon man... quit drinking the kool-aid.

Returning authority to the states to govern how they see fit is not denying anyone their rights.

Just stop...
You must be drinking kool-aid yourself. In 15 states abortion is completely banned. No exceptions.
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Women should have the right in every state to self determination.
Clearly, the 450,000 females killed by abortion every year do not.
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:58 AM
 
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You must be drinking kool-aid yourself. In 15 states abortion is completely banned. No exceptions.
False. There is no state that completely bans abortion.
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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Clearly, the 450,000 females killed by abortion every year do not.
A fetus has no ability to self determination.
 
Old 11-27-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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I don't know anyone like that. I know plenty of people that were claiming discrimination because they didn't want the vaccine and running their mouths. Meanwhile I work with people who said nothing but just never got around to it. I'm vaccinated and haven't been asked or forced to show proof. No one was ever going to hold you down and vaccinate anyone. Reasonable accommodations were made.

I saw those same people were too anti social to put a dang mask over their face in an attempt to slow the spread throughout their community because they thought it didn't help. The virus was new. We didn't know what would or would not work. Putting a cloth over your face is a low cost solution so it wouldn't require some grand efficacy. But for some reason (tied to autonomy but without the filter of pro-social applied) a big deal was made over this. Solo driver's in cars wearing a mask was somehow intolerable. Mask-wears became some outgroup to be despised. They did that. The animosity is on them. Everyone else is trying to accommodate them but they virtue signaled to 17 year old stock boys.

Can you see how all of that might look to people that are highly pro social?
Just because you are unaware that people lost jobs, educational opportunities etc. doesn’t mean they didn’t because the absolutely did. The vaccine mandates were real. Real people lost jobs. Students lost educational opportunities. Instead of standing against this, the “my body my choice crowd supported the mandates.
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