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Old 03-07-2023, 09:48 AM
 
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My mistake. Genissa23 yes I meant to type Ribosome not mitochondria. Thank you
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Old 03-07-2023, 10:44 AM
 
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Help me out, please.

My understanding or misunderstanding, is that the Covid vaccine could not enter your blood stream unless the needle was in a vein or artery. That is why you are supposed to draw back the plunger, to insure the needle is not in a vein or artery. Having drawn back the plunger and seeing no blood enter the barrel, you then depress the plunger to inject the substance.

I thought the vaccines going into the bloodstream was due to all of the people administering vaccine shots who rashly injected the vaccine without ever bothering to draw back the plunger and insure the needle was not in a vein or artery.

Are you saying that doesn't matter and it aways migrated into the bloodstream anyway?
All vaccines end up in your bloodstream.
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Old 03-07-2023, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You can turn on closed captioning if his accent is an issue.
He's reading from the TGA. States other vaccines stay in your deltoid and antibody attaches to antigen- end of story - but not this one. This one delivers a lipid nano particle to cross into the blood stream. Going all over body into cells far from the injection site.
No other vaccine prior in history goes into mitochondria.

It's scary stuff and obviously why pharma was given total immunity from liability. And can't forget they tried to have data sealed for 75 years.
Any sources besides YouTube?

No vaccine will stay completely in the muscle.

https://www.science.org/content/blog...otein-behavior

"Consider what happens when you're infected by the actual coronavirus. We know now that the huge majority of such infections are spread by inhalation of virus-laden droplets from other infected people, so the route of administration is via the nose and/or lungs, and the cells lining your airway are thus the first ones to get infected. The viral infection process leads at the end to lysis of the the host cell and subsequent dumping of a load of new viral particles - and these get dumped into the cellular neighborhood and into the bloodstream."

"Compare this, though, to what happens in vaccination. The injection is intramuscular, not into the bloodstream. That's why a muscle like the deltoid is preferred, because it's a good target of thicker muscle tissue without any easily hit veins or arteries at the site of injection. The big surface vein in that region is the cephalic vein, and it's down along where the deltoid and pectoral muscles meet, not high up in the shoulder. In earlier animal model studies of mRNA vaccines, such administration was clearly preferred over a straight i.v. injection; the effects were much stronger. So the muscle cells around the injection are hit by the vaccine (whether mRNA-containing lipid nanoparticles or adenovirus vectors) while a good portion of the remaining dose is in the intercellular fluid and thus drains through the lymphatic system, not the bloodstream. That's what you want, since the lymph nodes are a major site of immune response."

More at the link.

Yes, it is new technology. So?

The data that is taking so long to be released contains protected health information on trial participants. Redacting that is time consuming.
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Old 03-07-2023, 04:52 PM
 
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There are some people out there in this world of ours who are so loyal to vaccines that they could literally die from getting one and come back as a ghost and argue about how safe and effective they are.
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Old 03-07-2023, 05:07 PM
 
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Covid 19 vaccine uses mRNA. The m stands for messenger. It attaches to the ribosome and makes proteins. The antigens made by the ribosome and the RNA are later broken down by the body via the normal procreally. MRNA vaccines have been in development since 2008.

The mitochondria has nothing to do with this. The mitochondria has dna not rna.
This has been explained probably a dozen times at least in various threads over the last 2.5 years. It is not understood or believed by those who tend toward an anti-science stance. The insistence that somehow DNA is being changed persists.
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Old 03-08-2023, 08:08 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Eric Clapton: "I can't sleep because of the pain...the vaccine took my immune system and just shook it around"
Clapton is a gifted guitarist, musician and songwriter; I have paid to listen to him in concert. That said, he’s not a research scientist or infectious disease specialist of any sort. The dude spent decades abusing his body with drugs and alcohol, but he somehow knows it’s the vaccine that has ‘shook around his immune system’. Come on, lol.

Why would anyone bank on the opinion of a musician, politician or celebrity relative to their own health?
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