Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Do you not know the meaning of the word disabled? You too are hitting all of the preferred stereotypes as well….but I am asking about their disabilities.
They are financially disabled. I don't blame them for trying to better their life. But, these are uneducated poor human beings that will need much help. I'm trying not to stereotype you in the normal bleeding heart unable to comprehend reality, illogical type person categories, but you are making it tough.
Do you not know the meaning of the word disabled? You too are hitting all of the preferred stereotypes as well….but I am asking about their disabilities.
But clearly, the xenophobes have ambitions well beyond ensuring an orderly immigration process. Their rhetoric is hateful, dehumanizing, racist, bigoted….look at the language they use to refer to immigrants. They don’t want people who look differently than they do, speak differently than they do, or have a different culture than they do allowed in this country.
OK. Let's listen to one who has concerns over this flood of illegal entrant foreign nationals.
.
. So, WVNomad, is Bernadette Lancelin a "xenophobe"?
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
24,425 posts, read 12,967,908 times
Reputation: 10768
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
Each child born a u.s. citizen will grow up to possibly become a tax payer. (it's a risk yes, but so is every investment ever) Follow that money ...
According to the State Department there are approx. 10 Million Americans living abroad. The u.s. lost approx. 6.86 Million Americans to COVID. (i don't know how many die each year) The total fertility rate of the u.s. citizen is 1.68 and it takes 2.1 to replace a society ---
Is there away to sustain the population in the u.s. without foreign births, who become citizens or immigration, that it will take them over 10 years to become a citizen, that I don't know about?
"10 Million Americans living abroad"
Which is done primarily for economic reasons.
The largest group of expats are those 61+, the retirement dollars go farther because it's cheaper to live in some other countries compared to the US. The next two largest groups are those in their 30's, prime work ages.
"The u.s. lost approx. 6.86 Million Americans to COVID."
False, a gross exaggeration. Your figure is the number of deaths worldwide.
1.1 million Americans died of covid. But we all know that number is skewed, if they died of other causes but had covid in their system then it was counted as a covid death.
"The total fertility rate of the u.s. citizen is 1.68 and it takes 2.1 to replace a society"
There are many reasons for the low birth rate.
Economics, both good and bad.
Many more women getting degrees and/or working than they had done 50 years ago.
Many women put off having children during their peak working years or decide not to have children at all.
When the economy goes down fewer people want to have children...and the economy is truly bad right now.
Almost a million abortions per year.
Men and women these days don't even know what sex they are.
Better overall health care.
etc.
We could take the $100+ Billion that we're squandering on illegals and use it to give citizens an incentive for having children, and to lure women of childbearing ages, who are planning to have children, to legally immigrate to the US from other first world countries.
Quote:
ps: with 10 Million Americans living in other countries, one could say that Americans have invaded other countries abroad ...
^ the most ridiculous comment I've seen posted today.
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
24,425 posts, read 12,967,908 times
Reputation: 10768
Quote:
Originally Posted by crone
And that's why, IMO, all this border scare talk is bogus. It's all for vote getting. Nobody in Texas cared about documentation until Trump came along. He took a few zealots and turned it into a movement. It worked.
Long before Trump had taken that escalator down to announce he was running, you failed to notice that this country was headed in the wrong direction? Long before Trump, many others DID notice...and it was more than just about the border and illegals. They also knew that none of those in politics were willing to change that direction, until Trump.
Caring about the direction this country is headed is zealotry to you? wow. No wonder we've had failed and corrupt leadership for decades, it's people like you who want that. American citizens come last, and if they complain about that then their zealots. just cannot make this stuff up, sheesh.
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
24,425 posts, read 12,967,908 times
Reputation: 10768
Quote:
Originally Posted by WVNomad
There is plenty of evidence that immigration of all forms is economically beneficial to the US. Google “cost benefit immigration”. One thing I have not seen, however, is how those benefits and costs are distributed geographically. I wouldn’t be surprised if border cities/states bear a greater share of costs than non-border states. That strikes me as a fair and legitimate concern raised by those who are passionate about this issue.
False. It's been proven time and again in this forum and the Illegal forum, that those who legally immigrate here are beneficial, while those who come here illegally are a massive economic drain in this country.
As pro-illegals tend to do, you're getting your stats from far-left sites that intentionally blur the lines between those who come here illegally and those who immigrate here legally.
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
24,425 posts, read 12,967,908 times
Reputation: 10768
Quote:
Originally Posted by WVNomad
You definitely are hitting all of the preferred xenophobic stereotypes
"Xenophobic"? Those who are against people 'who come here illegally' are not xenophobic, since they prefer those who come here should legally immigrate here.
Meanwhile, those who are pro-illegal are racist. Other than the average taxpayer, those who are harmed the most by illegals are black people. Those who want illegals here even though they know black people suffer because of it = racism.
So why increase that drain by allowing illegals to come here?
1) Everyone pays taxes.
2) Money cannot be taxed. Only work can be taxed. Whether you pay the tax or your employer pays the tax or your customer pays the tax is wholly irrelevant.
By my analysis, a roofer pays more taxes than a hedgefund manager because a roofer produces something of tangible value, whereas a hedgefund manager produces nothing. I would rather live in a country filled with day laborers than bankers.
The day laborers produce things. The bankers just manipulate, counterfeit, exploit, and steal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by berdee
We have visas workers for many of those jobs. Plenty of citizens work in construction, service jobs, etc., who have been pushed out due to cheap labor.
Again, you're missing the point. This is not your country. This country is owned by the corporations/bankers. They want cheap labor to suppress wages to economically compete with China. They also want consumers, construction workers, and service providers to grow the real-estate market, to provide the services that allow the rich to live in luxury, and to enable both high-skilled men and women to pursue careers.
Legal and illegal immigration serve a purpose. If illegal-immigration was a problem it would have been stopped decades ago. Immigrants(both legal and illegal) are good for the economy. Period.
Quote:
Originally Posted by berdee
In your opinion, what is it that needs to be done?
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
24,425 posts, read 12,967,908 times
Reputation: 10768
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redshadowz
1) Everyone pays taxes.
2) Money cannot be taxed. Only work can be taxed. Whether you pay the tax or your employer pays the tax or your customer pays the tax is wholly irrelevant.
By my analysis, a roofer pays more taxes than a hedgefund manager because a roofer produces something of tangible value, whereas a hedgefund manager produces nothing. I would rather live in a country filled with day laborers than bankers.
The day laborers produce things. The bankers just manipulate, counterfeit, exploit, and steal.
Not really an answer to the question.
Quote:
Again, you're missing the point. This is not your country. This country is owned by the corporations/bankers. They want cheap labor to suppress wages to economically compete with China. They also want consumers, construction workers, and service providers to grow the real-estate market, to provide the services that allow the rich to live in luxury, and to enable both high-skilled men and women to pursue careers.
Legal and illegal immigration serve a purpose. If illegal-immigration was a problem it would have been stopped decades ago. Immigrants(both legal and illegal) are good for the economy. Period.
I'd already stated that they want a slave class and the left [and some on the right] and the left base are happy to oblige.
Quote:
As long as capital rules, then capital will rule.
Not an answer to the question.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
