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Old 06-07-2023, 06:23 AM
 
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Having witnessed a LOT of belly-aching over food inflation we've all had to listen to over the past year, are you one of the very few who would willingly pay much higher prices at the grocery store, to ensure that all farm workers are legally here?

Are you sure?

Hypocrisy seems to go both ways.
It wont be much higher prices.
But I'd rather pay more to ensure that farmers higher legal workers than pay more, as we have, due to bad political decisions and all the other made up excuses, drought, floods, bird flu, etc. etc. that we are fed every year when prices increase.
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Old 06-07-2023, 07:45 AM
 
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It wont be much higher prices.
But I'd rather pay more to ensure that farmers higher legal workers than pay more, as we have, due to bad political decisions and all the other made up excuses, drought, floods, bird flu, etc. etc. that we are fed every year when prices increase.
Illegals are no bargain anyway when you factor in their social costs of over $100 billion a year. So how much does that head of lettuce "actually" cost right now?
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Old 06-07-2023, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Illegals are no bargain anyway when you factor in their social costs of over $100 billion a year. So how much does that head of lettuce "actually" cost right now?
And you don't think the low paid Agricultural Worker doesn't qualify for food stamps, think again...
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Old 06-07-2023, 07:58 AM
 
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Illegals are no bargain anyway when you factor in their social costs of over $100 billion a year. So how much does that head of lettuce "actually" cost right now?
Lettuce isn't a Florida crop anyway. Oranges, tomatoes, watermelons. A lot of that is exports also. But some people believe we will all starve without Florida farmers paying undercut wages to illegal aliens.
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:16 AM
 
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show of hands.....how many people posting here know this law only applies to new hires
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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The lie that’s gonna hurt Fls economy. These are attorneys watching the legal aspects of Ronnie’s , GOP moves in Fl

DeSantis political stunts

https://fb.watch/l0iFopVjrX/
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Yes I can blame them for breaking the law just as I blame anyone else for breaking the law.

Plenty of Americans work hard labor jobs and plenty used to pick crops. I know people who work in slaughterhouses, hotels, restaurants, factories, construction, etc. How many citizens do you know that can pick up and move to follow the crops and provide a living on that seasonal low paying work now?

It was during WWII when the US implemented the guest worker program for agriculture because so many American men let to fight the war leaving farmers shorthanded. From the Bracero program legal seasonal guest worker programs continued to grow. So we have a legal system in place.
At what rate of pay ? And only for a season. These folks migrate from farm to farm all over the USA.
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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show of hands.....how many people posting here know this law only applies to new hires
True, but again - you pick the harvest. Strawberry is in season . Ok. Then ? What comes after that ? You are the picker , please do tell.
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:39 AM
 
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Illegals are no bargain anyway when you factor in their social costs of over $100 billion a year. So how much does that head of lettuce "actually" cost right now?
Let's not get started on the "actual" cost of a head of lettuce. Considering we pay about $25 BILLION a year in farm subsidies, the actual cost of a head of lettuce is stratospheric.

Here is a study by Texas A&M: U.S. Farm Subsidies: A Prime Example of Crony Capitalism
https://perc.tamu.edu/PERC-Blog/PERC...f-Crony-Capita

So laws that require the farms to provide proof of legal status for every worker will result in higher food costs and understaffed agriculture. I'm guessing most Americans wouldn't last very long working on a farm in this day and age even if wages were higher.
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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"Whine" seems harsh. Farmers, like truckers, are essential to our very existence. If they are upset about something, and call out for help, we need to listen and respect them enough to believe them.
Maybe they shouldn't grow more than the available pool of legal labor.
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