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IOW it's not just a blanket ban of anything older than 15 years.
Furthermore, it's just a proposal. Who knows if it'll actually be adopted. Would be surprised if it is.
In some European nations, such as Germany, car inspection requirements are already so strict that old clunker cars are de facto 'banned' anyway.
Even in England which is full of clunkers it's a challenge getting an older car to pass an MOT (yearly inspection). It usually requires some work, or finding someone unethical who will fudge the results. Very illegal but not uncommon.
I wouldn't worry about this; Europeans are definitely more worried about environmental issues than Americans are but I can't see people there getting behind something like this. Cars are very expensive there and I can't imagine being forced to buy a new one every 15 years or so.
Even in England which is full of clunkers it's a challenge getting an older car to pass an MOT (yearly inspection). It usually requires some work, or finding someone unethical who will fudge the results. Very illegal but not uncommon.
I wouldn't worry about this; Europeans are definitely more worried about environmental issues than Americans are but I can't see people there getting behind something like this. Cars are very expensive there and I can't imagine being forced to buy a new one every 15 years or so.
Need anyone from Virginia to weigh in here, as I have dealt with their DMV tyranny since the early 80s. Wonder how many people around here (from VA that is) remember not just the VA annual safety inspection, but that lovely county/city sticker that meant you had paid your personal property tax on the vehicle. Not having an updated tax sticker in your window could and did (for too many people I knew) result in the 2nd most expensive citation you get from the state, trailing only reckless driving in a posted construction area. And at one point, before they actually changed that property tax thing, they added emissions testing to achieve the evil trilogy of tyranny every year you registered your car.
After I left VA in the 90s, I spent the next 10-15 years just feeling that slightly sad version of sympathy every time I saw someone with a VA plate. I am sure other states have VA beat, but yeah, their DMV was straight draconian, no joke.
It's the same slippery slope that the 2A supporters talk about. If it has been proposed, it will eventually gain some momentum. If one doesn't believe that, they are completely naïve. Is it something to panic about now ? Probably not, but it is something to keep aware of, and something that should be considered when voting.
And much like the "gun control" argument, we will have individuals that really have no knowledge of something, or just general knowledge, and even some misinformation, forming legislation for the rest of us.
After reading that link provided by elnina, I saw nothing in there that actually defines what a classic is. Who and what makes that determination ?
If we aren't smart enough to know that when the government takes control of something, they generally screw it up, especially the current crop of Democrats.
I have a 33 year old S10 pickup with a V6 in it. Who in their right mind would consider that a classic that should be worth saving, or restoring, right ? It's just an S10. Well, looking that particular model up on "bring a trailer", in the last year 9 have been sold, the lowest price was $35k, the highest $65k. IYKYK.
On a lighter note, the movies of the '70's already predicted things like this happening. Lol
"The Last Chase" After moving the seat of government to Boston, the new dictatorship outlawed private ownership and use of all automobiles, boats and aircraft, on the pretext that an even bigger crisis, the depletion of fossil fuel supplies, was imminent. The loss of other personal freedoms followed, and a mass surveillance system now monitors private citizens' every move.
Years before, as private vehicles were being confiscated, Hart sequestered his race car – an orange Porsche 917 CAN-AM roadster – in a secret compartment beneath his basement. Over the ensuing years he has gradually restored it to drivable condition, raiding long-abandoned junkyards in the dead of night for parts. His goal is to drive across the country to "Free California", an independent territory that has seceded from the rest of totalitarian America.
The most unrealistic part of the movie, other than the entire premise, is that California is the "free, indepenent" state.
Even in England which is full of clunkers it's a challenge getting an older car to pass an MOT (yearly inspection). It usually requires some work, or finding someone unethical who will fudge the results. Very illegal but not uncommon.
I wouldn't worry about this; Europeans are definitely more worried about environmental issues than Americans are but I can't see people there getting behind something like this. Cars are very expensive there and I can't imagine being forced to buy a new one every 15 years or so.
You also highlight the global phenomenon where they will agree to or sign accords but then underlying rampant corruption means they don't actually follow through or measure correctly.
It's also silly to not see the writing on the wall.
Yeah, we keep telling grandpa to stop drawing on the wall in crayon while claiming he's signing the declaration of independence from the confederacy. But after 60 hours of talk radio in a week, he's pretty fired up about Russia taking back Alaska and other certainties...
It's the same slippery slope that the 2A supporters talk about. If it has been proposed, it will eventually gain some momentum. If one doesn't believe that, they are completely naïve. Is it something to panic about now ? Probably not, but it is something to keep aware of, and something that should be considered when voting.
And much like the "gun control" argument, we will have individuals that really have no knowledge of something, or just general knowledge, and even some misinformation, forming legislation for the rest of us.
After reading that link provided by elnina, I saw nothing in there that actually defines what a classic is. Who and what makes that determination ?
If we aren't smart enough to know that when the government takes control of something, they generally screw it up, especially the current crop of Democrats.
I have a 33 year old S10 pickup with a V6 in it. Who in their right mind would consider that a classic that should be worth saving, or restoring, right ? It's just an S10. Well, looking that particular model up on "bring a trailer", in the last year 9 have been sold, the lowest price was $35k, the highest $65k. IYKYK.
On a lighter note, the movies of the '70's already predicted things like this happening. Lol
"The Last Chase" After moving the seat of government to Boston, the new dictatorship outlawed private ownership and use of all automobiles, boats and aircraft, on the pretext that an even bigger crisis, the depletion of fossil fuel supplies, was imminent. The loss of other personal freedoms followed, and a mass surveillance system now monitors private citizens' every move.
Years before, as private vehicles were being confiscated, Hart sequestered his race car – an orange Porsche 917 CAN-AM roadster – in a secret compartment beneath his basement. Over the ensuing years he has gradually restored it to drivable condition, raiding long-abandoned junkyards in the dead of night for parts. His goal is to drive across the country to "Free California", an independent territory that has seceded from the rest of totalitarian America.
The most unrealistic part of the movie, other than the entire premise, is that California is the "free, indepenent" state.
Im thinking the song 'Red Barchetta' which I will see performed live tomorrow evening....but <perk> 91 S10 2.8? stick? Sold! (not for 35 no...but still....)
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But after 60 hours of talk radio in a week, he's pretty fired up about Russia taking back Alaska and other certainties...
