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Old 05-05-2024, 03:11 PM
 
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There have always been some kind of drill in schools. Either it was for some nuclear bomb coming our way from the USSR, to preparation for strong storms and tornadoes. I'd rather my kid be prepped and not need it than need it and not be prepped to have to think under stressful conditions.

Yes, I saw a video of a little boy maybe 5, and his mother had a bulletproof backpack for him (which are popular now) and was asking him to show her what to do, and he was very calm, got under a table or something and held the backpack in front of him. She herself was making sure he knew what to do.


IMO knowing there are steps to take and a plan, regardless of effectiveness, makes people feel less anxious, not more. One of the reasons tornado warnings terrify me, is I don't know what I'm supposed to do (no basement, no interior room without windows, and the advice if you're driving is "Find a ditch). Not having a concrete plan to follow makes me feel much more scared.
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Old 05-05-2024, 03:19 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Every freakin' lock down drill!!! Every one! One teacher even told his students he was jumping out the window, and they were on their own. While that would likely be the case for him if we had a school shooter, he didn't need to announce it to the kids.
And people on here think I'm stupid for being viscerally opposed to arming teachers (and Administrators for that matter). Someone would end up playing with the firearm and shoot themself or someone else. Or set it down and forget it. Or leave it in their desk. That's not even taking into account the coterie of students who would make it their life's work to get that gun.
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Old 05-05-2024, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Northwest Houston
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Every freakin' lock down drill!!! Every one! One teacher even told his students he was jumping out the window, and they were on their own. While that would likely be the case for him if we had a school shooter, he didn't need to announce it to the kids.
Yikes. Hope he got in trouble!
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Old Yesterday, 06:07 AM
 
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And people on here think I'm stupid for being viscerally opposed to arming teachers (and Administrators for that matter). Someone would end up playing with the firearm and shoot themself or someone else. Or set it down and forget it. Or leave it in their desk. That's not even taking into account the coterie of students who would make it their life's work to get that gun.
I worked in ED middle school with boys who had their own criminal records. We locked up everything that could be used as a weapon. The other Para forgot to lock up her sharp scissors and one boy tried to stab her with it. She would have been dead if it was a gun.

It was ONE STRIKE and they were out of there.
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Old Yesterday, 06:40 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I worked in ED middle school with boys who had their own criminal records. We locked up everything that could be used as a weapon. The other Para forgot to lock up her sharp scissors and one boy tried to stab her with it. She would have been dead if it was a gun.

It was ONE STRIKE and they were out of there.
Most people who opine on "What's wrong with schools" don't have a ****ing clue. Even the "good" schools have these issues.

That kid wouldn't have had to be ED to do that.

I was in the cafeteria one day and a kid stood up and punched out the teacher on Lunch Duty. I grabbed him and eventually asked him why he did it. His answer was just that he wanted to punch him, in fact didn't have the teacher in class or even know him.
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Old Yesterday, 06:49 AM
 
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I think it's important for kids to know basic things like where, in each classroom, is the 'safest' place to go *if* someone is shooting into that classroom. If you look at the Parkland H.S. case, who lived and who died inside the classrooms depended on where in the classroom students went. Certain areas are best, but it's not something someone would know without being taught.
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Old Yesterday, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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I worked in ED middle school with boys who had their own criminal records. We locked up everything that could be used as a weapon. The other Para forgot to lock up her sharp scissors and one boy tried to stab her with it. She would have been dead if it was a gun.

It was ONE STRIKE and they were out of there.
I worked in ED NPS for a few decades. Anything could become a weapon. Someone once threw a heavy duty stapler at a teacher and hit him. That was the last day the heavy duty stapler was out on a desk. Another kid cracked a student over the head with a jar of spaghetti sauce during a cooking activity. At least one kid tried to stab me with a pencil.
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Old Yesterday, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Where clams are a pizza topping
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I think kids being aware of what to do in case of an active shooter situation is more important than them not in fear of giving them anxiety. My son has a twice (or once?) yearly active shooter drill. I’d rather some kids be anxious about it than them have no idea what to do in the event it did happen.
I agree. At my workplace we have an emergency drill once each year that lasts several hours. Yes, in the moment it is discomfiting to see our normally quiet compound swarming with armed police and military personnel, and a tank driving up to the copse of trees where I normally share my lunch with the flora and fauna. However, it is comforting to know that this exercise serves as a refresher so there is are well-choreographed plans in place for a real emergency.
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Old Yesterday, 08:05 AM
 
Location: My house
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Maybe in Podunk where there are one or two schools. But in our cities there are dozens, even hundreds of schools. All of them would have to hire armed guards, buy and staff one or more metal detectors. You want to pay for that given the risk is "infinitesimally small"? We can't hire enough teachers or even provide school supplies anymore given the low priority for education in the United States.
cities have higher population, more rateables, tax income, etc. it’s pretty proportional except for the democrat spending, lack of fiscal responsibility, and greed/corruption
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Old Yesterday, 08:15 AM
 
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Tornado drills cause anxiety also.
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