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Old Yesterday, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Unnecessary. I don't need the government's "help" not being a nazi. Looking at the products and results of their "education" system, the government is the one that needs all the help it can get. Outside of that, the intentions of this act are almost certainly not what we see on the surface.
Totally agree. Why do we need laws to not desire to exterminate people? Maybe send the haters packing to the Muslim country of their choice.

 
Old Yesterday, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Preskitt
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Most notable is that the term “anti-semitism” as it pertains within the bill has been defined by an international org. to include claiming Jews killed Jesus.
Our alleged conservative, alleged christian speaker is all for it.

Score another one for team perpetual victimhood.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/01/polit...act/index.html
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-...bill/6090/text
You cannot "ban" hate. Trying to restrict free speech is another bad idea. The anti semites are out and exposed in the open now (and there are a LOT of them) , hopefully the sunlight will disinfect them naturally.

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Old Yesterday, 08:58 AM
 
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Thought police... no thanks.
That's what I'm thinking too.
 
Old Yesterday, 10:08 AM
 
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Kinda makes me question who is really behind these protests. Hmm
 
Old Yesterday, 10:40 AM
 
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OK... some details...

House passes landmark college antisemitism bill amid anti-Israel protests

The legislation seeks to make the Department of Education adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of antisemitism when enforcing the 1964 Civil Rights Act on college campuses.

The alliance defines antisemitism as “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews." It also defines it as "[r]hetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

Examples of antisemitism include calling for the harming of Jewish people in the name of a radical or extremist view of religion, and accusing Jewish people of inventing and/or exaggerating the Holocaust.


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This article explains...

The Antisemitism Awareness Act only requires the DOE to use the Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition when enforcing existing laws. In the most important sense, it only levels the playing field for people on our college campuses who clearly need it.

Ideally, we wouldn't have any such laws on the books. But so long as we do, they shouldn't create "open season" conditions on some groups while giving carte blanche to others.


Note this...

The Antisemitism Awareness Act was passed by a lopsided 320-91 majority. That puts real pressure on Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and his fellow/sister/xellow/zister Democrats to move the bill through quickly and send it to the White House for Biden's signature.

Or his veto.

It's an imperfect bill. But it might accomplish some good if enacted, and it certainly puts the right kind of pressure on Democrats who are currently caught between a rock (their dependence on antisemitic voters) and a hard place (the broad majority who oppose antisemitism).


Popcorn popped...
 
Old Yesterday, 11:17 AM
 
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The ACLU is making sense on this one.

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In a letter to representatives, the ACLU wrote, “Federal law already prohibits antisemitic discrimination and harassment by federally funded entities. H.R. 6090 is therefore not needed to protect against antisemitic discrimination; instead, it would likely chill free speech of students on college campuses by incorrectly equating criticism of the Israeli government with antisemitism.”

“While we wholly support efforts to fight discrimination and harassment through Title VI complaints and investigations, we strongly oppose use of the IHRA definition, or any definition of discrimination that threatens to censor or penalize political speech protected by the First Amendment,” the letter states.
 
Old Yesterday, 11:33 AM
 
Location: West Loop Chicago
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This bill is stupid virtue signaling when anti-discrimination laws were already on the books.

Here is the definition that the Bill uses.

https://holocaustremembrance.com/res...n-antisemitism

"Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic."

Lawyers are going to make a killing trying to argue what "similar to" means. Especially for a country which has a unique set of circumstances.
 
Old Yesterday, 01:23 PM
 
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I said this a long time ago - They will ban the Bible.

Christianity is being targeted - one way or another.

Only parts of the New Testament? Sure, Wait, they'll ban it all.

What are they going to do - Rewrite it all.

Why now? Why all this now????

Whatever.....
 
Old Yesterday, 01:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Torn2pieces View Post
I said this a long time ago - They will ban the Bible.

Christianity is being targeted - one way or another.

Only parts of the New Testament? Sure, Wait, they'll ban it all.

What are they going to do - Rewrite it all.

Why now? Why all this now????

Whatever.....
What on earth does Christianity have to do with this? Not being allowed to show antisemitism toward Jewish people somehow infringes on your freedom of religion?
 
Old Yesterday, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
OK... some details...

House passes landmark college antisemitism bill amid anti-Israel protests

The legislation seeks to make the Department of Education adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of antisemitism when enforcing the 1964 Civil Rights Act on college campuses.

The alliance defines antisemitism as “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews." It also defines it as "[r]hetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

Examples of antisemitism include calling for the harming of Jewish people in the name of a radical or extremist view of religion, and accusing Jewish people of inventing and/or exaggerating the Holocaust.


-------------------------

This article explains...

The Antisemitism Awareness Act only requires the DOE to use the Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition when enforcing existing laws. In the most important sense, it only levels the playing field for people on our college campuses who clearly need it.

Ideally, we wouldn't have any such laws on the books. But so long as we do, they shouldn't create "open season" conditions on some groups while giving carte blanche to others.


Note this...

The Antisemitism Awareness Act was passed by a lopsided 320-91 majority. That puts real pressure on Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and his fellow/sister/xellow/zister Democrats to move the bill through quickly and send it to the White House for Biden's signature.

Or his veto.

It's an imperfect bill. But it might accomplish some good if enacted, and it certainly puts the right kind of pressure on Democrats who are currently caught between a rock (their dependence on antisemitic voters) and a hard place (the broad majority who oppose antisemitism).


Popcorn popped...
That’s about as clear as mud, another feel good law passed that will do nothing.
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