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You're right. Better they be taught to kill hippies!
you can't always judge a book by the cover.Sometimes I get stereotyped by people when they see me,it is to be expected but..........
I support hunting,it makes people more in tune with nature,it brings people more aware of being a individual and taking care of yourself.Shut off power for a week and let's see how many can go without a supermarket.
I fully support firearm ownership in fact just came back from the range a hour ago.And I have never voted for a Democrat.And while I think it is great to preserve a tree and nature I have no problem cutting one down.
Heck,I don't even do drugs.........anymore.
And after being in Texas last year I can say overall Texans are great people,and would live there but never would live in California.
I'm through with this thread; frankly, wclac, in an effort to try to understand where you're coming from, I looked at your other posts via your profile.
You're so full of bile and sincere hatred for the world; from white people, to women in general, to children in general, and that's just the first page of recent posts, that I can't even take your opinion seriously.
You have some very serious issues, and maybe you could see a therapist.
In the meantime, as a previous poster said, stay away from guns. Thanks!
I have recently been involved in a thread about a young 10 year old being taught how to Bullfight. This led onto a discussion about children of 7 being taken hunting and killing deer by the age of 9. In the 21st Century can anyone give me a good reason why young Children should be taught and applauded for killing Animals.
Hey geero..
I get your posts.. I am all for gun control. etc..
But I have family that lives in Montana. My cousins , whose kids are now grown, have had gun cases in their house will all sorts of different hunting rifles, etc... since they were born. Me.. I cringe at the thought of having a gun in my house, god forbid my child get a hold of it. BUT.. and here's the big But.. it all depends on the level of respect that someoen is taught in reference to guns or hunting.
for example.. a kid taught to hunt for the thrill of killing another animal out of pure evil spite or will malicious intent is just wrong. However, in many parts of the u.s.. particularly the midwest and places like MT... it is about tradition and the land. While it is regulated to a point because you don't want to kill off all the animals.. it is to an extent important in helping to control the animal populatino, while not driving the extinct. It kind of keeps the humans and animals in a strange sort of harmony. It is also a bonding thing that a lot of sons do with their father..with a lot of history and culture tied in behind it. Again.. a level of respect is required for the hunt itself and the animal you are hunting along with the weapons used to hunt.
Now. ..some kid from inner city NY wouldn't have the same outlook or respect for the land/hunt because he was never taught that.. and there is no such culture in NY or LI for that matter and other places in the U.S
In addition.. a lot of hunters/fishers that are like I speak of,do use the animal meat for their families, etc. and it isn't just to kill something..
So I get where you are coming from.. but it's a cultural thing that again.. I'll use the word.. requires respect for the land, the animal and the weapons used.
Thanks for the insight Tristansmommy. I personally cannot see any reason for killing animals just for sport. This thread has been enlightening to me to see the various views held in the USA. While i disagree with hunting i would bever say that people shouldn't do it. As you said it's a cultural thing. I was interested at peoples views as to what age is too young to start hunting or handling a firearm. I'm really pleased to see all the passionate for and againsts. Hope you are well Tristans..
Thanks for the insight Tristansmommy. I personally cannot see any reason for killing animals just for sport. This thread has been enlightening to me to see the various views held in the USA. While i disagree with hunting i would bever say that people shouldn't do it. As you said it's a cultural thing. I was interested at peoples views as to what age is too young to start hunting or handling a firearm. I'm really pleased to see all the passionate for and againsts. Hope you are well Tristans..
No problem.
And while I love eating meat..I'm really don't like to meet my dinner before I eat it..LOL. I'm perfectly content buying my meat in the store never having seen it walking around...
Guns are unsettling to me.. I couldn't fire one at any living thing, personally.. maybe a can set out in teh distance..
I think that if you are a family with guns in the home, you need to teach your children about them as soon as possible.. I think if you don't, the mystery of them is what will attract them to it and that's when you have a set up for tradgedy. If they get to hold it, learn about it and shoot it supervised by an adult that knows and has respect for the weapon.. then the mystery is gone adn they understand what it truly is.
That's the difference between a kid that takes out a gun that locked up in the house and thinks it's a toy.. vs one whose parents taught him exactly what it is..
as for my son.. I would not let him play at a house of a friend where guns are present nor would i have a gun present in my house.
Guns are unsettling to me.. I couldn't fire one at any living thing, personally.. maybe a can set out in teh distance..
I think that if you are a family with guns in the home, you need to teach your children about them as soon as possible.. I think if you don't, the mystery of them is what will attract them to it and that's when you have a set up for tradgedy. If they get to hold it, learn about it and shoot it supervised by an adult that knows and has respect for the weapon.. then the mystery is gone adn they understand what it truly is.
That's the difference between a kid that takes out a gun that locked up in the house and thinks it's a toy.. vs one whose parents taught him exactly what it is..
as for my son.. I would not let him play at a house of a friend where guns are present nor would i have a gun present in my house.
My sons were taught to have respect for firearms at an early age. Both fired their first firearm (a 22cal) between 6/7 years old. They both went to the NRA gun safety courses for kids - Safety above all was emphasized.
As they progressed in age, they went hunting with me (and their grandfather). They learned to respect the land. They learned to respect nature.
Firearms are part of our family. I carry a firearm with me at most times - my wife does also. There are other firearms in our home - several are readily accessible in case of need.
My children have followed what they learned - and have repeated the lessons with their children -
Tristansmommy...When i was in the army i fired various types of weapons. Guns do not bother me. We had a saying that it isn't the gun that kills, it's the finger on the trigger. I can see your point about teaching children respect for firearms if they are in the house and they might get the urge to get hold of them. Very few people have guns in their houses in the UK. lso we don't have the vast open wild areas that you do in America. The only time i would have a gun in my home in Houston is if i felt there was a clear and present danger. Luckily i have never felt that here in Texas and all the people i have met are just down to earth normal great people.
na, brother. not a troll at all. i got family that hunts. we hunt in LA> well i dont. they do. its something i have seen all my life. they share their dear meat with us too. used to at least. my uncles old as dirt now.
but i aint a dictator. you really think i got that much power over you?? im just giving you my opinion. if giving my opinion makes me dictatorial or hurts your feelings or whatever, then maybe you should spend some time off this site. i just gave my opinion. and no one has really given me reason to shift my position.
i dont think what you guys do is hunt. i think you guys practice your marksmanship. i understand the tracking aspect of it all. its fascinating how much my uncle knew. but i couldnt really get past the "sniper" quality of it all. thats it. no ones really given me reason to think otherwise.
and you guys are more than welcome, im lookin for another perspective. but it seems you guys just like to say im ignorant or silly or whatever... very telling.
o and im not a vegan. i wear leather. i love meat. and its fine to play with guns. to teach your kids about gun safety. i just dont think any real hunters exist anymore.
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I meant paintball is silly. Looks like fun but I dont shoot at things I dont want to kill. I dont have an "urge" or "itch" to kill. I like to hunt & I like to fish. Cowardness or bravery has no real place in it.
Living in LA explains alot. I dont imagine you have any real experience with hunting or raising kids to hunt. Since you are here, not in an inquisitive capacity to learn, but in a dictatorial capacity to tell, even tho you are clearly ignorant of the subject at hand, I can only surmise you're a troll.
...i just dont think any real hunters exist anymore.
Yes, Virginia, there are still real hunters. Even here in NJ!
This is where the problem lies.
People are so detached from others who might choose (or need) to live a simpler lifestyle...
Some folks are just out of touch with the possibility that someone might actually "choose to hunt their meat rather than buy it at the store". (Like, really?!?)
There is an intrinsic connection with food that one has hunted down and eats. It's the same reason some people heat with wood rather than oil or gas. It's organic (no, not in the trendy "organic" sense, please.)
There is a similar connection with eating a tomato out of one's garden or the eggs from one's chickens. (yes, lots of regular people own real live chickens that they get eggs from too. You know, just to let you in on some info...eggs aren't made at the Stop & Shop).
lol
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you can't always judge a book by the cover.Sometimes I get stereotyped by people when they see me,it is to be expected but..........
And I have never voted for a Democrat.And while I think it is great to preserve a tree and nature I have no problem cutting one down.
