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Old 09-19-2008, 05:30 PM
 
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If a man walks into a bank unarmed and demands $20, and leaves after getting a $20 bill...that man can receive 20 years to life in federal prison...

If a man becomes a CEO of a bank, takes hundreds of millions in salary, and then drives the bank into bankrupcy...that man will get a taxpayer funded bailout to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars and absolutely no time in federal prison... Instead the man will also get a severance package in the millions to retire on some beach property, funded by taxpayer dollars.

The difference is weath and power are absolute in America. By failing in unison, the banks guaranteed a bailout of massive scale. Just imagine if the middle class taxpayers unite to do something about the financial destruction of their childrens future. Imagine if 50 million citizens refused to go to work for a week, or quit their jobs and become bums in order to stop the flow of taxes to fund such abuses of power. Imagine if the middle class actually united...and stood up for a common cause!

Something to ponder over the next few years, as federal taxes double and inflation is so high it takes $800 to fill a grocery cart. Don't kid yourself Americans, the toxic loans still exist, they have just been transferred from private banks to taxpayer funded "government trusts"...
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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my units ready is yours???
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:22 PM
 
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The average joe has been getting a raw deal since Alexander Hamilton was secretary of the Treasury. Nothing knew here. You can't pay your mortgage because of an unforseen event and you lose your home. When the super rich lose money they simply get the government to bail them out and make you pay for it.
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Well, first, you people gotta have the good sense to hold the politicians responsible for this economic mess we're in by voting the incumbant ones out of office, be them Republicans or Democrats. I don't think any of them so much as warned us what was coming. Your absolute refusal will give these politicians the idea that they have been right after all and in turn you'll get bad government right back in the face.

For instance, as a result of you all refusing to vote President Bush out of office in 2004, talk show host Michael Savage has just said on his show, "Welcome to the United Soviet States of America. George Bush did it."

And so if you people once again absolutely refuse to vote out the incumbants, then you might as will be given up on as good citizens of our country interested in exercising good civic responsibility. As for me, I richly look forward to practicing what I've been preaching.
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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StillwaterTownie, I agree with you 100%. Dubya wasn't responsible all by himself, but he is a chief culprit. It's also 90 percent of the congress AND senate (lower caps on purpose) as well that are responsible (which you inferred).

A 9% approval rating for Congress?

And also thanks to the OP of this thread. We need to do something about this people; peacefully but something needs to be done. Republican, Democrat, it DOES NOT MATTER; they are all worthy of scrutiny.

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Old 09-19-2008, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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If a man walks into a bank unarmed and demands $20, and leaves after getting a $20 bill...that man can receive 20 years to life in federal prison...

If a man becomes a CEO of a bank, takes hundreds of millions in salary, and then drives the bank into bankrupcy...that man will get a taxpayer funded bailout to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars and absolutely no time in federal prison... Instead the man will also get a severance package in the millions to retire on some beach property, funded by taxpayer dollars.

The difference is weath and power are absolute in America. By failing in unison, the banks guaranteed a bailout of massive scale. Just imagine if the middle class taxpayers unite to do something about the financial destruction of their childrens future. Imagine if 50 million citizens refused to go to work for a week, or quit their jobs and become bums in order to stop the flow of taxes to fund such abuses of power. Imagine if the middle class actually united...and stood up for a common cause!

Something to ponder over the next few years, as federal taxes double and inflation is so high it takes $800 to fill a grocery cart. Don't kid yourself Americans, the toxic loans still exist, they have just been transferred from private banks to taxpayer funded "government trusts"...

Good thing I'm renting a farm house with lots of land soon.. I can grow my own vegetables!!!

I think I'll learn to sow too and knit..
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:49 PM
 
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For the life of me I cannot find that the middle class pay much of the taxes in this country.
If anything the wealthy are paying our way. Sure we pay some but not very much compared to the wealthy.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:00 PM
 
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Well, first, you people gotta have the good sense to hold the politicians responsible for this economic mess we're in by voting the incumbant ones out of office, be them Republicans or Democrats. I don't think any of them so much as warned us what was coming. Your absolute refusal will give these politicians the idea that they have been right after all and in turn you'll get bad government right back in the face.

For instance, as a result of you all refusing to vote President Bush out of office in 2004, talk show host Michael Savage has just said on his show, "Welcome to the United Soviet States of America. George Bush did it."

And so if you people once again absolutely refuse to vote out the incumbants, then you might as will be given up on as good citizens of our country interested in exercising good civic responsibility. As for me, I richly look forward to practicing what I've been preaching.
Does anyone honestly believe if Kerry had been elected this would have been any different? Neither party gets any credit for the financial meltdown but both get responsibility for not doing enough if anything to prevent it.

There's enough blame to go round both sides and we better just get used to it. Not sure many people here realize just how close the financial sector came to a complete collapse. Whether or not we like the actions taken, it certainly wouldn't have been a choice otherwise.

Congress... 535 reasons to support term limits. NEVER vote for an incumbent.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:01 PM
 
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Does anyone honestly believe if Kerry had been elected this would have been any different? Neither party gets any credit for the financial meltdown but both get responsibility for not doing enough if anything to prevent.

There's enough blame to go round both sides and we better just get used to it. Not sure many people here realize just how close the financial sector came to a complete collapse. Whether or not we like the actions taken, it certainly wouldn't have been a choice otherwise.

Congress... 535 reasons to support term limits. NEVER vote for an incumbent.
You are so right...this is not a partisan issue. They all screwed up the economy equally.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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Sorry, the "employee", which constitutes the majority of the population, has been marginalized, politically speaking, quite some time ago in our esteemed caste system. All one has to do is look at the tax code and wrap yourself with fear while contemplating the EYE-R-SS.
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