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Old 09-28-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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I see a lot of back and forth about this candidate being Muslim, that one being too Christian, another not Christian enough...
I'm an atheist. I have no hope of ever seeing an atheist elected official, it seems. Everyone has to pay lip service to Christianity to get past square one.
Curious how other people feel.
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:44 AM
 
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I would vote for an agnostic or athiest in a heartbeat -- assuming that I agreed with his/her ideology.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:01 AM
 
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Well, a Repub candidate certainly has to kowtow to the fundies or they won't be accepted by the evangelists of the far right wing. Sarah Palin is of course the current prime example of this. And Muslim bigots to this day are insisting on calling attention to Obama's name and refuse to believe he's Christian, as if being Christian is the least we should expect in our President.

I don't care about a politician's religion, or lack thereof. The candidate's stand on issues I consider important are what will or will not get my vote. As long as the candidate doesn't intend to propose or pass laws to reflect only his/her religious beliefs, I really don't care where or if he goes to church, synagogue, mosque, or an altar in the woods dedicated to a pagan goddess.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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I would vote for an agnostic or athiest in a heartbeat -- assuming that I agreed with his/her ideology.
ditto.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:20 PM
 
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Well, a Repub candidate certainly has to kowtow to the fundies or they won't be accepted by the evangelists of the far right wing. Sarah Palin is of course the current prime example of this. And Muslim bigots to this day are insisting on calling attention to Obama's name and refuse to believe he's Christian, as if being Christian is the least we should expect in our President.

I don't care about a politician's religion, or lack thereof. The candidate's stand on issues I consider important are what will or will not get my vote. As long as the candidate doesn't intend to propose or pass laws to reflect only his/her religious beliefs, I really don't care where or if he goes to church, synagogue, mosque, or an altar in the woods dedicated to a pagan goddess.
Agreed
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:23 PM
 
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I vote for anyone who had a good grasp of what needs to be done and how to do it, doesn't pander for votes, doesn't select one group over another, and won't be corrupted by the government/business collusion... I don't care if they black, white, asian, muslim, hindu, atheist, or even if they spent 10 years working at McDonald's... As long as they have a drive to be fair and righteous...
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:28 PM
 
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It is interesting that everyone who has posted so far agrees that they would vote for an agnostic/atheist candidate. I don't think that's indicative of the majority of the country- or am I wrong?
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:29 PM
 
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I would if I agreed with the person's political ideologies and proposed policies. In the theory, the person could believe adamantly in Satan and worship him for all I care, as long as he upheld separation of church and state and didn't allow his religion to dictate his political decisions.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:33 PM
 
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It is interesting that everyone who has posted so far agrees that they would vote for an agnostic/atheist candidate. I don't think that's indicative of the majority of the country- or am I wrong?
No, it's not. I wish it was indicative, but sadly no.
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:43 PM
 
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I see a lot of back and forth about this candidate being Muslim, that one being too Christian, another not Christian enough...
I'm an atheist. I have no hope of ever seeing an atheist elected official, it seems. Everyone has to pay lip service to Christianity to get past square one.
Curious how other people feel.
Unfortunately I think you're right. Like most of us, I won't speak for you, I was raised with at least some religion, went to a Catholic high school and a Catholic university, but it was always my experience that most Catholics, I know some here may disagree, but we're cynical about religion; it could have been the strict rules that were imposed on us (glad I missed the grade school thing; most of those guys/girls never see their way clear to free themselves).

If you pressed me, I'd have to come down on the side of believing in a Supreme Being. Why? Only because I choose to. It feels better. It's a question of faith anyway, a function of the heart not of the brain, so why not come down on the side of hope?

But you're point is well-made. If any presidential, could be any senatorial candidate as well, had the courage to proclaim his/her atheism or even a doubt in the existence of God, I have a hunch that would be the last we'd hear of them. The hypocrisy here is it's in our DNA, probably goes back to our beginnings as a species to clearly be able to differentiate between the real and imagined as a matter of safety.

So then why do we go through this charade. Every thinking person has doubts, but I do think that atheists are just as arrogant in their certainty the other way. We are all agnostic on some level, I believe. But when we will be able to accept this kind of honesty from a presidential candidate I'm afraid is a time that is a lot further off than I would have predicted.
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