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Both of the above writers are examples of the confusion I have. I don't know who you voted for, but a Congress with lower poll ratings than President Bush, I don't understand.
I honestly wish we could get true integrity and trust back into our government, but with the size of the government, there will always be graft.
Congress can't get anything done because they are not veto proof. Why is that hard to understand?
We need to get things done that will benefit the country as a whole, not just the wealthy. I'm no economics expert, but I do know that, in general, republicans are for helping the rich stay rich, and doing nothing for anyone else. I don't need a hand out, but helping the rich get richer and the poor stay poor is not good for the country as a whole. I want better health care coverage, or better oversight of the coverage I already have. I want religion kept out of politics, and I want decisions based on science, not someone's idea of morality. I want renewable energy. I want responsible environmental policy. How to pay for it? How about get the heck out of Iraq? We're not in a war there. We're occupying their country. I've yet to hear a definition of what "victory" would be. I think increasingly, the republican party supports people like them - wealthy, white, Christian, heterosexual - and if you aren't like them, then forget you! I can't be a part of that, even though I'm all of those things I just listed, except wealthy (but we do ok). We're ALL Americans, no matter what color, income bracket, religion, or sexual orientation, and we all have a right to be treated equally.
1: Making sure that everybody is a Christain. Jesus and the bible will be taught in all public schools, believing in evolution will be punishable by stoning, and dinosaur bones will be thought as what they really are; "tricks from God to test the faith of the weak". All other religions are wrong and should not be tolerated.
2: My right to buy automatic assult rifles will never be taken away. I have the right to buy a gun that can unload 2000 bullets into a squirrel and blow it away to smitherians if I choose too. As a Christain I don't care about the urban city children who die every day to these guns.
3: I want to see the US take its Christain right and defeat every muslim country in the world. I want war with Iran, Syria, North Korea, Spain, Mexico, Canada, and the rest of those un-Pro, un-Christain countries in this world. BRING EM ON!
4: I want all kids to stop going to college and getting educated. It is in these institutions that they learn liberal ideas that are destroying this great Christian nation. Kids should be educated in church, and that is it. The only thing worth learning is the Jesus is my savior!
5: The environment is meant to be ruined. I don't want any new technology or any of this "green" crap. I want to destroy every forest and drive over all the endangered species with my hummer. I love God, but just not his crappy Earth he made. The Earth is his biggest mistake, and he put us here to make sure we destroy it, and stop hippie liberal losers from saving it.
6: There should be restrictions on books, movies, and music albums that question God or this country. We should be able to ban everything that isn't fit and insults Pro-American Christians. Books in libraries should be burned, and the only place to get a book should be in a Protastant church.
7: None of us should pay taxes. I hate them. We don't need goverenment to build our roads, bridges, airports, or schools. God will provide that stuff for us. If you pray, he will build it...
8. I hate acutual towns with central business districts. They should all be abandoned and we should make every town in America one large Walmart. A town with its own identity and small stores is for hippy liberal losers. Real Americans shop at Walmart. Everytown in America big or small should have a Walmart on the edge, and homogeneous box style housing in the middle!
9: All the crap I buy should be from China. If goods are made in the US than we won't have time to pray to Jesus. A bad economy brings on a stronger need for Obeying the Lord. Economy bad. Praying to Jesus, Good.
I have more, but thats my ideas so far.
Your post makes me giggle like a silly school girl
Both of the above writers are examples of the confusion I have. I don't know who you voted for, but a Congress with lower poll ratings than President Bush, I don't understand.
I honestly wish we could get true integrity and trust back into our government, but with the size of the government, there will always be graft.
Trying to get things done in Congress with a bull headed President is not an easy task.
Now that we have a Democratic controlled Congress as well as a Democrat as President, perhaps we can actually get things done.
Fix the economy
Get back the U.S reputation that Bush Destroyed
End a War we were lied to to get into
Focus on the one we SHOULD be focusing on.. Bin Laden
Stop the drill baby drill mantra and actually change the mantra to innovation innovation innovation!! and get off our dependency on oil.. (yes, this will take awhile but atleast we're now on the right track)
Repeal the tax breaks for the wealthiest of Americans which obviously hasn't done very much for our economy or our budget in the last 8 years. I'm not neccesarily looking for a tax break and realistically with our deficit don't expect one.. but the rich shouldn't be recieving them either!! Nothings "trickled down" to the middle class accept the upper classes economic screw ups!
Start rewarding companies who create and KEEP jobs in the US rather than reward them for taking them overseas
Wow.. imagine this.. FIX the healthcare crisis with a comprehensive plan whos goal it is is to make sure that everyone is covered..not neccesarily a UHI, but atleast a step in the right direction (McCains plan was a joke!)
I was happy a president actually ran his campaign on money paid to him and contributed to him mostly by the people .. a grass roots campaign.. as opposed to special interest groups!
Socialism is an economic system not an epithet. Liberalism is a political term that is also not an epithet.
Socialism, as I see it, is an economic system where the natural monopolies are communally owned and business sufficiently regulated to require the internalization of the social and environmental cost inherent in the business. Socialism does not require the government ownership of everything.
Liberalism, as I see it, is a system that uses the government to level the economic differences in a society while encouraging free expression of thought. Even thought that disagrees with the ideas of equalization of economic opportunity. At its core Liberalism is merit based where all individuals are encouraged to do their best.
I am a Liberal that highly values individual freedom and a vocal supporter of the US constitution. I also believe a socialist economy provides the greatest benefit for the greatest number of citizens even if it reduces the privilege of the extremely wealthy.
Modern conservatism has become a hideous mix of greed and god that serves only Mammon to the detriment of all but the few extremely wealth adherents. Mammonism mixes politics and economics for the benefit of the politically connected and the hedonistic plutocracy.
Thank you for your intelligent, thoughtful essay. You would be the kind of person that I would enjoy "arguing" with. You speak without fear of your words and I think you could be as persuadable as persuasive. That is true intelligence in my book. You, like I believe of myself, seek only the truth and not what I somebody tells me to believe. Gracious!
One of the reasons no one likes Congress is because Congress utterly failed to stand up to President Bush on some of his more outrageous policies. That won't be an issue any more.
So, you voted for change, just for change? I fear so many people did this.
Please give me an example of what you consider an outrageous policy. Please give people on this forum reasonable room to disagree intelligently, too.
See what I mean. Somebody who post intelligently and seems to have a education knows what socialism really is, and doesn't use it like a moron.
Please do not opine as to the value of another person. If you are truly a liberal, you don't believe in slamming others, yet it appears to me that few liberals can argue their point with integrity and persuasion.
Trying to get things done in Congress with a bull headed President is not an easy task.
Now that we have a Democratic controlled Congress as well as a Democrat as President, perhaps we can actually get things done.
Fix the economy
Get back the U.S reputation that Bush Destroyed
End a War we were lied to to get into
Focus on the one we SHOULD be focusing on.. Bin Laden
Stop the drill baby drill mantra and actually change the mantra to innovation innovation innovation!! and get off our dependency on oil.. (yes, this will take awhile but atleast we're now on the right track)
Repeal the tax breaks for the wealthiest of Americans which obviously hasn't done very much for our economy or our budget in the last 8 years. I'm not neccesarily looking for a tax break and realistically with our deficit don't expect one.. but the rich shouldn't be recieving them either!! Nothings "trickled down" to the middle class accept the upper classes economic screw ups!
Start rewarding companies who create and KEEP jobs in the US rather than reward them for taking them overseas
Wow.. imagine this.. FIX the healthcare crisis with a comprehensive plan whos goal it is is to make sure that everyone is covered..not neccesarily a UHI, but atleast a step in the right direction (McCains plan was a joke!)
I was happy a president actually ran his campaign on money paid to him and contributed to him mostly by the people .. a grass roots campaign.. as opposed to special interest groups!
May I ask you to be open to how I agree with your wishes, but know that you have failed to understand that working on Humpty's shell with a hammer won't heal his pain?
If you and any liberal would be open to a factual discussion of economics, I would be happy to be involved in that discussion, too.
Please do not opine as to the value of another person. If you are truly a liberal, you don't believe in slamming others, yet it appears to me that few liberals can argue their point with integrity and persuasion.
Why is it always, a few liberals can argue their point, or a few conservatives can actually be smart, or some other stereotypical comment?
Also, not everybody wants to argue with integrity on a message board. Some don't take life so seriously, that integrity on a CD message board is their reputation. Sometimes being crude, rude, and outright obnoxious is the way to go. Freedom of speach is infact a very conservative Idea that I like. I am pretty much in the center, maybe a little left. I have conservative views on many issues, but my liberal views on other issues probably outweigh them to make me slightly more liberal.
Please don't tell me if I can opine in another person's opinion or not. I will also slam the MORONS who do not know how to use socialism in a educated and intelligent manner. These people are making me lose all faith I have in this country.
May I ask you to be open to how I agree with your wishes, but know that you have failed to understand that working on Humpty's shell with a hammer won't heal his pain?
If you and any liberal would be open to a factual discussion of economics, I would be happy to be involved in that discussion, too.
I've read enough dribble about Republican's theory of economics.. it hasn't been working for us.
The big corporations and the rich are
1) Taking their tax breaks and taking American jobs overseas. I , nor have the rest of the middle class, have seen anything positive for ourselves out of the Bush Tax Cuts.. considering that salaries have actually gone DOWN since Bush initiated the tax cuts I guess the "trickle down" theory hasn't worked.
But then again we are getting trickled down on now aren't we.. LOL. Now that the Wall Street guru's screw the pooch. We didn't feel their downind.. but we are certainly feeling thier downfall!!!
Trickle down economics does not work. The higher tax brackets are upset about the taxes they pay but fail to see that it's the middle class that has the hardest tax burden. WE don't have shelters in which to hide our money in and we can never seem to make enough to make that happen.
This will be interesting, I did not know liberals had goals. Socialism maybe?
Liberals have goals, like preventing our country from becoming a fascist totalitarian state that turns individual, private decisions into laws dictated by demagogues and the "popular vote" of faith-based, self-righteous, group-minded sheep.
I would also mention that one goal is preventing private corporations from conglomerating - contrary to anti-trust principals, to the point where they become powerful quasi-government bodies, or even "too big to fail."
Oh, and stopping, or at least slowing, the largest transfer of wealth in history and the growing diparity in earnings caused by systemic (i.e. no one in particular to blame) manipulation of consumers' habits through, among other reasons, unchecked settelment patterns - allowing developers to subdivide land and build according to market segment rather than functional efficiency resulting in dependence on personal automobiles (reducing mobility and social interaction) and our entire economy, with fiat currency and mass indebtedness, being entirely dependent on foreign oil subject to price volatility that throws off the prices of EVERYTHING because nothing is made, grown, milked, juiced, or slaughtered within 100 miles of population centers.
"Drill here, drill now"? That might buy another few years, just like widening the highways will. Then what? You think we're going to have some "alternative" fuel to replace gas and we're all going to keep right on cruising in our SUVs? Not going to happen, we're going to see the world oil supply peak and then all hell will break loose. Forget alternative fuel, we need alternative transportation.
And it would be nice if my grandkids (assuming I have them) can swim or go fishing out in the country somewhere and not get poisoned or shot for trespassing.
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