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Old 11-20-2008, 06:35 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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And to disallow gay marriage is deemed unconstitutional.
What was passed in CA was a constitutional amendment.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:38 AM
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Tyranny? Good grief we are talking about defining marriage, not lynchings.
Oh good lord, did you fall asleep during civics class?

Tyranny of the majority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tocqueville and the Tyranny of the Majority (http://www.revision-notes.co.uk/revision/980.html - broken link)
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It is misfortunate that unaccountable judges would have the final say in this issue. Goodbye democracy and hello monarchy!
It is misfortunate that so many CA voters seek to reject the civil rights issues involved in this issue!
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:21 AM
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This issue is not about civil rights, it is about a sector of society trying to change the definition of marriage and trying to shove their agenda on us.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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This issue is not about civil rights, it is about a sector of society trying to change the definition of marriage and trying to shove their agenda on us.
I could not disagree with you more. It IS about civil rights. My point being, as long a marriage is a "civil" institution, recognized by the state, as it is in all 50 states, and requiring a "state licence" to be "legal", it should not be "influenced" by religious concerns I support the rights of every church and religious group to define marriage as a "sacrement" in their sect, however they wish to, but as a civil institution, marriage should not be denied to committed couples!
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:53 AM
 
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It appears that our votes don't count anymore in California. TWICE the voters rejected Gay marriage in California but the court will decide the issue.

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And, so it should. How would you like people voting on YOUR rights? No majority should ever vote on the rights of a minority. That's what the courts are for.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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This issue is not about civil rights, it is about a sector of society trying to change the definition of marriage and trying to shove their agenda on us.
Oh my...Are they trying to force everyone to marry the same sex? Is that what you think. Live and let live my friend.
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:05 AM
 
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Oh my...Are they trying to force everyone to marry the same sex? Is that what you think. Live and let live my friend.
As they say, if you don't like gay marriage, don't marry someone gay!
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:29 AM
 
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It appears that our votes don't count anymore in California. TWICE the voters rejected Gay marriage in California but the court will decide the issue.

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Votes in California have not counted for many years. Prop 187 in 1994 is another good example.
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I'm waiting to see a thoughtful explanation as to California's system of "revisions" verses "amendments". The Federal Constitution, and most state ones, have no such distinction, so it's confusing for a lot of us observers, especially ones from out of state.

I was aghast when I first learned the California Constitution's protections of minorities can be overturned with a mere popular vote.
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