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Old 02-13-2009, 10:09 AM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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Not to worry, the upursulus package is in good hands...

Congressional Offices Don't Have the Stimulus Bill, Lobbyists Do
That's crazy! Why do lobbyists have the stimulus bill, but Congressional staffers don't? How absurd!
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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Can anyone furnish the link for any legislative bills awaiting the President's signing...in particular the stimulus package that Congress will be voting on?

Obama promised to post bills for 5 days on the White House website before signing into law for public comments. The White House website is up, but I don't see any links to pending bills awaiting the President's signing.
What a "f'd" up mess. I only have one question.....

Where is the CHANGE?
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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Not to worry, the upursulus package is in good hands...

Congressional Offices Don't Have the Stimulus Bill, Lobbyists Do
CHANGE???? Hello? Where is the change? Change, are you out there? Anywhere? Hello? Hello?
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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You mean "walk on eggshells". Why???? We didn't walk on eggshells questioning Bush or Clinton? Why start now? Obama will receive the same questioning and grilling that Bush and Clinton received. Only fair.
I'm sure the poster is referring to the treatment/investigation of "Joe the Plumber."
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Obama will receive the same questioning and grilling that Bush and Clinton received. Only fair.
Surely you don't believe that.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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What a "f'd" up mess. I only have one question.....

Where is the CHANGE?
The majority Dumbocrat Congress is making a huge mess of things. I'm sure there will be a lot of mess ahead for us with those bimbos able to push through left-wing, loony-tune, wasteful spending, legislation.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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CHANGE???? Hello? Where is the change? Change, are you out there? Anywhere? Hello? Hello?
Here you go (he's been pretty busy making changes):

Presidential Actions
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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I thought Nobama promised new legislation would be available on the White House website for 5 days for public comment before he signs a bill.
I heard the stimulus bill will be available on the White House website for public comment and review AFTER the POTUS signs it into law, at which point, it won't be a bill anymore, so it goes.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:55 AM
 
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CHANGE???? Hello? Where is the change? Change, are you out there? Anywhere? Hello? Hello?






Senator Chuck Schumer of NY said that the voters don't really care about stuff like that.



Speaking of change, here is some change you can believe in that I received in an email:



SCHOOL -- 1958 vs. 2008

Scenario : Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into
school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1958 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at
Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to
show Jack.
2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called,
Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun
again. Counselors called in for
traumatized students and teachers.


Scenario :
Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after> school.
1958 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark
shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests
Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled
even though Johnny started it.



Scenario :
Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts
other students.
1958 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good> paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and
does not disrupt class again.
2008 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin.> Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.


Scenario :
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and
his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1958 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up
normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful
businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child
abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang.. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she
remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.
Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.



Scenario :
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to
school.
1958 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on
the smoking dock.
2008 - Police called, Mark expelled from school
for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
>

Scenario :
Pedro fails high school English .
1958 - Pedro goes to summer school , passes
English, goes to college. 2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state.
Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that
teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist.
ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system
and Pedro's English teacher . English banned from core
curriculum . Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing
lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.


Scenario :
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th
of July , puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows
up a red ant bed.
1958 - Ants die.
2008- BATF, Homeland Security , FBI called. Johnny
charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents,
siblings removed from home, computers confiscated,
Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never
allowed to fly again.


Scenario :
Johnny falls while running during recess and
scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary.
Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1958 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and
goes on playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator
and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison .
Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:03 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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The Middle East issue is ultimately Obama's problem. Obama is Hillary's boss. Why isn't Obama doing a better job staying on top of Middle East issues???
Maybe because Obama is too busy jetting around the country, being needy for his followers cheers???

The buck starts and stops with Obama, it is his administration, not Hillary's.
Obama still thinks he's on the campaign trail. He's off on the campaign trail trying to sell the stimulus bill and fostering his fascination with Lincoln. Sometimes it's easier to look to the past than to deal with the present. He has not yet got out of campaign gear and into governing gear. Just because people do a great job with campaigning, doesn't necessarily mean those skills will translate over to governing. Bipartisanship doesn't mean agreeing with one person's agenda. It does mean sitting down in a room with these bozos from both sides of congress and hashing it out. A good leader would do that. A good campaigner will continue to sell his product and blame those who don't agree with him instead of being a part of the process. Big difference.
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