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Ohh gee, another thread chock full of baseless attacks of which none of them are backed up when refuted. You even have the "I haven't read this thread crowd".
I think your intentions Jetgraphics are well meant but I'm afraid futile. In a week you'll see every single one of the rebuttals you gave ignored and the original talking point repeated.
I applaud this thread making it to 7 pages.
Entertaining.
I think we should be careful about making a big fuss in regards to these honorary titles.
After all, Obama sent back the Churchill bust and didn't share celebs with Gordon - Britain was hurt - according to one paper.
Ohh gee, another thread chock full of baseless attacks of which none of them are backed up when refuted. You even have the "I haven't read this thread crowd".
I think your intentions Jetgraphics are well meant but I'm afraid futile. In a week you'll see every single one of the rebuttals you gave ignored and the original talking point repeated.
The Second American Revolution -or- the Counterrevolution to the Socialist revolution of 1935 - requires such sacrifices.
Each American who starts to think on his own, and makes the effort to read the law on the books, is one more potential sovereign.
Once 51% leave national socialism, and restore their sovereign status, the whole fabric of socialist tyranny collapses. Our servant, the U.S. Congress, gets a trip to the woodshed, and things become testy for predators and parasites.
....Of all the things to get this passionately angry over..An honorary knighthood. In other words, a consolation prize. Not quite, but you're almost there!
In other news, thousands of children died this day due to lack of clean water. Who's going to be angry and indignant about that with me? Argh! Rabble Rabble!
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Precisely. Why not post your outrage over the horrors of little children being raped in Darfur. Seems to be a little more important.
And, yes, sunklhammer, George W. Bush was called horrible names. He was given a chance - something you have not done for Obama - and proved patently incapable of leading our country with dignity, honor, and intelligence.
Bush actually started off pretty effectively. It wasn't until he unequivocally failed time and again that we turned on him in earnest.
We're not there yet with Obama.
Find peace in your heart. You're just seeing the beautiful sway of a vibrant republic moving from one ideology to another when one gets out of control. Appreciate that dynamic power of our country, don't stake faux-revolutions against it.
If knighthood is not a title, then what is "Sir" and "Dame".
Here's the bottom line -
Government is the servant of the sovereign American people.
If there are servants who are taking "honors" from some other sovereign, isn't that suspicious?
Especially, when they took an oath to first GET PERMISSION before taking any honors from ANY foreign sovereign, or nation.
I didn't say it wasnot a title I said it was not a "title of nobility" which is what the passage that you keep quoting specifically excludes. A title can be anything including Mr., Mrs. and Ms.
People get honored all the time and nothing says they can't accept honor, they just can't accept "titles of nobility". Please go read the passage that you keep quoting - you are just looking for things to nitpick. Like I said, if you are just angry that Ted Kennedy got honored that is one thing, but to say it is unconstitutional and he is a traitor is another.
I'm a liberal according to many people. I think that the circumstances surrounding the car accident were suspicious to say the least. I think that TKaway with something because he has money. I don't think he "murdered" anyone intentionally. I think he very well could have given the family money. Heck, if I was in his place even if it had been a complete accident, I would have given them money voluntary! I don't think the fact that he gave the family money means anything.
The fact of the matter is he was not found guilty in a court of law. I don't know why people keep voting him in, I don't live in that state. I probably wouldn't have voted for him. Unfortunately during that time, money could buy you almost anything. That is not something just specific to Democrats or Republicans - that's America. In my state there is a state senator that was voted in after 3 CONVICTED DUIs. He even publicly stated that people won't care about that and he was right. One of his stops was recorded by the police and I saw it. He was smashed, completely, totally, undeniably. He just happens to be a republican and just hasn't killed anyone, yet. But do I label all Republicans as bad because of this one bad apple? NO.
I didn't say it wasnot a title I said it was not a "title of nobility" which is what the passage that you keep quoting specifically excludes. A title can be anything including Mr., Mrs. and Ms.
People get honored all the time and nothing says they can't accept honor, they just can't accept "titles of nobility". Please go read the passage that you keep quoting - you are just looking for things to nitpick. Like I said, if you are just angry that Ted Kennedy got honored that is one thing, but to say it is unconstitutional and he is a traitor is another.
I'm a liberal according to many people. I think that the circumstances surrounding the car accident were suspicious to say the least. I think that TKaway with something because he has money. I don't think he "murdered" anyone intentionally. I think he very well could have given the family money. Heck, if I was in his place even if it had been a complete accident, I would have given them money voluntary! I don't think the fact that he gave the family money means anything.
The fact of the matter is he was not found guilty in a court of law. I don't know why people keep voting him in, I don't live in that state. I probably wouldn't have voted for him. Unfortunately during that time, money could buy you almost anything. That is not something just specific to Democrats or Republicans - that's America. In my state there is a state senator that was voted in after 3 CONVICTED DUIs. He even publicly stated that people won't care about that and he was right. One of his stops was recorded by the police and I saw it. He was smashed, completely, totally, undeniably. He just happens to be a republican and just hasn't killed anyone, yet. But do I label all Republicans as bad because of this one bad apple? NO.
The point isn't if Senator Kennedy deserves this title, the point is this action violates Article 1 section 9 of the Constitution. Senator Kennedy must get permission from congress.
I know that a number of liberals could care less about the Constitution, either you follow it or you have it changed, but you can not just ignore it and say "oh well". These things were put in the constitution for a purpose and article 1 section 9 does not allow any persons serving in the public trust any titles granted by any foreign state.
It is the peoples of the United States that are the sovereigns of this country not the government.
The point isn't if Senator Kennedy deserves this title, the point is this action violates Article 1 section 9 of the Constitution. Senator Kennedy must get permission from congress.
I know that a number of liberals could care less about the Constitution, either you follow it or you have it changed, but you can not just ignore it and say "oh well". These things were put in the constitution for a purpose and article 1 section 9 does not allow any persons serving in the public trust any titles granted by any foreign state.
It is the peoples of the United States that are the sovereigns of this country not the government.
Liberals couldn't care less about the Constitution???
Guess it was really convenient for you to turn a blind eye to bush's trampling of the Constitution...even is QUOTED as saying it was "nothing but a #@%*%$*%^$#@ piece of paper" ...and PROVED many times he meant it!
AND it was a LOT more important than someone receving an honorary title but YOU wouldn't know that!
But I'm happy to see you bust a vein over this!!!! LOL!
The man had two of his brothers assasinated while serving in government, a third brother died while in military combat, and Ted himself is now battling a terminal form of brain cancer, and may not live to see the coming summer.
He spent nearly his entire life serving in public office.
And he now faces what could be his final months on Earth, and you are concerned about his receiving an honory award from England?
I am completely amazed that anyone could be so be so heartless to even start a thread such as this one!
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