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Old 03-10-2009, 06:07 PM
 
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No, they can't. Treat it as a public health issue and not as a crime issue and the country will be a far better place.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:10 PM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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No, we need better education and FACTUAL information when it comes to drugs like what was done with tobacco to reduce the amount of users.

Heroine and Cocaine you become addicted from first hit? Well I know people and I know people who know people that tried it, didn't like it, never went back to it. So why is it that the Anti-Drug people are giving out misinformation like that?

Prohibition doesn't work education does.
While it is true that only SOME people become addicted from one hit, why take the risk that you are one of them?

Whether you become addicted after hit one, or hit twenty... you'd never become addicted if you never started.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Penobscot Bay, the best place in Maine!
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Hmmm. With every other commercial on TV and every other page in most magazines being devoted to advertisements pushing chemicals to make us feel better, stronger, faster, happier (and yes I am aware that they are LEGAL chemicals....), I don't think a lot is going to change. I find it so odd when people start saying "but THOSE chemicals are illegal and THESE chemicals are prescribed by a doctor..no comparison!". Hello? We are raising a generation of citizens who will think nothing of manipulating their moods with whatever chemical will do the job... legal or not. Feel too bad? Take something to make you feel better. Feel too good? Take something that will make you feel less good. I'm of the opinion that many modern day drug pushers are found not on the streets and in back alleys, but in medical institutions and pharmacutical development companies.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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I say legalize and tax all drugs. I smoke pot every once in a while, I did cocaine a 10-15 times (over the course of 3 months so about 1-2 times a week nearly 2 years ago.), salvia twice, and E twice. I experimented, and actually have no desire to do the harder stuff again. I was offered coke MANY times after I quit, I just didn't feel like it. Many people are casual, weekend users or college experimenters.

I have a steady job, a college degree, and planning on taking my GMAT to get my MBA. The truth of the matter is that moderation is needed.

I will add that not everybody is like me. I know that there are some people that after one line of coke they will be addicted. With these people, instead of demonizing them for their mistake and sending them to prison, we should treat them.

The war on drugs is one that is class based. It hurts the families economically since, in a lot of communities, the primary breadwinner is the one that uses. Thus, with the primary breadwinner unable to work, we create a cycle of poverty and distress.

I think that treatment, legalization, and control are the best methods with drugs.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:30 PM
 
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While it is true that only SOME people become addicted from one hit, why take the risk that you are one of them?

Whether you become addicted after hit one, or hit twenty... you'd never become addicted if you never started.
My point is not when someone gets addicted its that the information the anti-drug people are giving out is not factual. Give out proper information and let people decide for themselves what they want to do. That would be a lot cheaper then trying to hunt them down and lock them in prison.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:34 PM
 
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Hmmm. With every other commercial on TV and every other page in most magazines being devoted to advertisements pushing chemicals to make us feel better, stronger, faster, happier (and yes I am aware that they are LEGAL chemicals....), I don't think a lot is going to change. I find it so odd when people start saying "but THOSE chemicals are illegal and THESE chemicals are prescribed by a doctor..no comparison!". Hello? We are raising a generation of citizens who will think nothing of manipulating their moods with whatever chemical will do the job... legal or not. Feel too bad? Take something to make you feel better. Feel too good? Take something that will make you feel less good. I'm of the opinion that many modern day drug pushers are found not on the streets and in back alleys, but in medical institutions and pharmacutical development companies.
Oh, I agree to me there is no difference between the stuff behind the counter,over the counter and the stuff on the streets. Only difference is for what ever reason (which usually had no relation to the drug itself) it became illegal.

I do not take any kind of medication unless I absolutely have to even then I look for herbal remedies. The side effects for those prescribed meds, and over the counter stuff are down right scary.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:40 PM
 
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I do not take any kind of medication unless I absolutely have to even then I look for herbal remedies. The side effects for those prescribed meds, and over the counter stuff are down right scary.
Watch out for herbal stuff too. Actually, many times the herbal stuff is worse for you. In my neuropharmacology class, I forgot the medication names and herbs, but the efficacy (how well it works) rate was higher with the non-herbal. The herbal drug, had a higher comorbidity rate for a side effect. I wish I had my notes to tell you specifics...but the point of the lesson is that "herbal" can be catchphrase.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:50 PM
 
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Watch out for herbal stuff too. Actually, many times the herbal stuff is worse for you. In my neuropharmacology class, I forgot the medication names and herbs, but the efficacy (how well it works) rate was higher with the non-herbal. The herbal drug, had a higher comorbidity rate for a side effect. I wish I had my notes to tell you specifics...but the point of the lesson is that "herbal" can be catchphrase.
Yea I know everyone in my family is in the medical field. I usually stick with at home remedies and herbal things for stuff like the common cold. Not for serious things because when it is very serious people go above and beyond loading up the herbal remedies crap not knowing what they are taking.

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Old 03-10-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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My point is not when someone gets addicted its that the information the anti-drug people are giving out is not factual. Give out proper information and let people decide for themselves what they want to do. That would be a lot cheaper then trying to hunt them down and lock them in prison.
They use too many scare tactics that end up backfiring once people learn the truth.

Its like in middle school when they told us that we'll basically get AIDS if we have unprotected sex with a girl.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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My point is not when someone gets addicted its that the information the anti-drug people are giving out is not factual. Give out proper information and let people decide for themselves what they want to do. That would be a lot cheaper then trying to hunt them down and lock them in prison.
The only way someone can be FULLY informed is if they get a genome test telling them whether or not they, personally, are susceptible to addiction.

Like I said, don't start.

AND quit blaming "the system" for YOUR mistakes.
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