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Old 03-15-2009, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't know. I have read right here on this forum about some dastardly plans involving Venezuelan Special Forces and Muslim jihadists joining forces to infiltrate our country from Cuba's nearby shores. Now is not the time to give up the stranglehold me friends while we have our foot on their neck! Squeeze! Squeeze!

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Old 03-15-2009, 04:23 PM
 
Location: #
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Is now the time? Amidst an economic crisis with no hope in sight? Will we have to jeopardize our morals to barter a liberalized Cuba? What about human rights? I see something alla Carter 1980. I can see nothing but negative implications for Miami if Cuba gradually opens...

But who cares, right? Havana was a bustling city hundreds of years before Miami was even on the map...
If this happens, does this mean Cuban immigrants no longer get a free pass when they arrive on rafts? Opening up the freedom to travel, creating the potential for business to Cuba and possibly causing a change in immigration policy that would create more deportations does not seem very leftist to me.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Is now the time? Amidst an economic crisis with no hope in sight? Will we have to jeopardize our morals to barter a liberalized Cuba? What about human rights? I see something alla Carter 1980. I can see nothing but negative implications for Miami if Cuba gradually opens...

But who cares, right? Havana was a bustling city hundreds of years before Miami was even on the map...
I have to agree with the *******s here.

Why does the OP hate freedom so much? Why do I have to go end run around Canada or Mexico just so I can visit that beautiful island and bring back some tasty cigars?
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Americans should have the right to travel and do business there, but with limitations.
Didn't know someone could hate America and freedom this much?
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Brusssels
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There is no better way to liberate Cuba than to open up relations and trade with them. How do you think we finally cracked open the Iron Curtain?
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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There is no better way to liberate Cuba than to open up relations and trade with them. How do you think we finally cracked open the Iron Curtain?
We cracked open the iron curtain by standing firm against the Russians until their people finally got tired of living with plenty of nukes and tiresome paranoid fantasies but serious shortages of food, electricity and toilet paper.

It appears that the Cubans and Venezuelans are even dumber than the kulaks.

Until our foolish sourthern neighbors fnally get fed up with tin-pot toads like Chavez and the fabulous flying geriatric Castros, I say let them rot.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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We cracked open the iron curtain by standing firm against the Russians until their people finally got tired of living with plenty of nukes and tiresome paranoid fantasies but serious shortages of food, electricity and toilet paper.

It appears that the Cubans and Venezuelans are even dumber than the kulaks.

Until our foolish sourthern neighbors fnally get fed up with tin-pot toads like Chavez and the fabulous flying geriatric Castros, I say let them rot.
You can let them rot all you want. I for one will never let big brother tell me whether I may or may not visit Cuba for a vacation.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I don't know. I have read right here on this forum about some dastardly plans involving Venezuelan Special Forces and Muslim jihadists joining forces to infiltrate our country from Cuba's nearby shores. Now is not the time to give up the stranglehold me friends while we have our foot on their neck! Squeeze! Squeeze!

The apelike foot squeeze is being applied by Chavez and Castro. That's what happens when you adopt monkeys as pets and make them your leaders for life.

The people of Venezuela and Cuba apparently suffer from terminal stupidity -- not to mention a masochistic need to be dominated by primates in berets....

Those countries, in their contemporary iteration, are frankly diseased. Why in the world should we cozy up to them?

Side note: Man, it's fun here in Osaka, watching Japan kick Cuba's behind bloody in the World Baseball Classic today. The commie slaves are crying the blues.

Nihon no yakyu team gambarimasu!
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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We cracked open the iron curtain by standing firm against the Russians
Better crack open those history books and look at US-Soviet trade relations in the late 70's and 80's.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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You can let them rot all you want. I for one will never let big brother tell me whether I may or may not visit Cuba for a vacation.
You can go any time you want. Just route your trip through Toronto. It's really not difficult.

You may wish to note, however, that Cuba's big brothers don't let anyone visit anywhere.

But do go give them your money. That makes a word of sense.
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