Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
1,030 posts, read 1,454,130 times
Reputation: 255

Advertisements

This same 46-48 million number of uninsured that keeps getting spread around by proponents of a UHS is being quoted from a Census Bureau study about health care in 2007.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf

What they don't tell you about the numbers is interesting:
1. 9.7 million of those are not US citizens
2. 17.5 million of those make over $50,000 a year
3. 10 million were age 18-64 and didn't work

so if you take out the foreigners and people who choose not to pay for healthcare even though they can afford it, you are left with approx 20 million uninsured. Out of 300 million people. That is less than 7% of the population.
So we need UHS to take care of 7% of the population. Isn't that wonderful.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:34 PM
 
3,709 posts, read 4,629,899 times
Reputation: 1671
Haven't found a Brit or a Canadian who is fond of their systems yet. (Unless they're 25 and have never been ill.)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:35 PM
 
3,292 posts, read 4,475,923 times
Reputation: 822
So you don't give a **** about 7% of the population?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Nashville
841 posts, read 2,261,591 times
Reputation: 379
Your right screw the 7% and let's allocate the resources to israel and the miltary.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:40 PM
 
3,709 posts, read 4,629,899 times
Reputation: 1671
Quote:
Originally Posted by california_is_superior View Post
Your right screw the 7% and let's allocate the resources to israel and the miltary.
Let's not be constitutional fools. The constitution enumerates the federal power of raising a military and waging wars. It does not impute the right for nanny government to provide your health care.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
23,861 posts, read 24,122,798 times
Reputation: 15135
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinkieMcGee View Post
So you don't give a **** about 7% of the population?
Quote:
Originally Posted by california_is_superior View Post
Your right screw the 7% and let's allocate the resources to israel and the miltary.
How remarkably....

...naive.

In the midst of this enormous financial crisis, you're actually going to advocate that the government take on the most expensive entitlement program in the history of the world to cover 7% of the population?

Shyeah, right...

I hate to break it to you, but the single payer system is extremely unlikely to go anywhere. Not for a looooooong time. This country has much bigger fish to fry right now, and your grandchildren will be paying down Obama's debt long after your dead and buried.

...if the U.S. is still around, that is.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:53 PM
 
3,709 posts, read 4,629,899 times
Reputation: 1671
Quote:
Originally Posted by swagger View Post
How remarkably....

...naive.

In the midst of this enormous financial crisis, you're actually going to advocate that the government take on the most expensive entitlement program in the history of the world to cover 7% of the population?

Shyeah, right...

I hate to break it to you, but the single payer system is extremely unlikely to go anywhere. Not for a looooooong time. This country has much bigger fish to fry right now, and your grandchildren will be paying down Obama's debt long after your dead and buried.

...if the U.S. is still around, that is.
Please don't expect left wing lunatics to understand this clear piece of thinking.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Nashville
841 posts, read 2,261,591 times
Reputation: 379
Quote:
Originally Posted by irishvanguard View Post
Let's not be constitutional fools. The constitution enumerates the federal power of raising a military and waging wars. It does not impute the right for nanny government to provide your health care.
Really?


The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political [Washington’s emphasis] connection as possible."
— Washington, Farewell Address (1796)

I deem [one of] the essential principles of our government, and consequently [one] which ought to shape its administration,…peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.
— Jefferson, First Inaugural Address (1801)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
31,767 posts, read 28,830,565 times
Reputation: 12341
Quote:
Originally Posted by nrfitchett4 View Post
so if you take out the foreigners and people who choose not to pay for healthcare even though they can afford it...
I'm not going to get into the actual numbers yet, but let me begin by asking, what kind of healthcare insurance do you have?

BTW, healthcare issue goes beyond number of people who are uninsured.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2009, 08:00 PM
 
3,709 posts, read 4,629,899 times
Reputation: 1671
Quote:
Originally Posted by california_is_superior View Post
Really?


The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political [Washington’s emphasis] connection as possible."
— Washington, Farewell Address (1796)

I deem [one of] the essential principles of our government, and consequently [one] which ought to shape its administration,…peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.
— Jefferson, First Inaugural Address (1801)
Why don't you lift a phrase from THE CONSTITUTION? And, furthermore, the one about your beloved entitlement...UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:41 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top