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Old 04-07-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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Big deal, M2F.
You're still not in the military, so you don't know as much as you might think.
Just like I don't know and I work with brigades of soldiers, and I'm a veteran.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:35 PM
 
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Keep in mind the leftist MEDIA will be grabbing the few seconds they want to reveal to the dumb sheeple out of the visit. The majority of military troops across the board are conservative.


Active Troops Disagree with Powell, Support McCain 3-to-1 Over Obama
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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It's so interesting--I wondered how long it would take for a post like this. The troops must love Obama after all! There's picture proof!

I mean, his "surprise" visit wasn't contrived or anything. He was just sitting on the plane and said, "Take a left at Albuquerque."

Surely these were just random troops, not hand selected in any way.

No. Definitely not.
Very good point. I witnessed dignitaries from all levels of government come to visit us in Baghdad. On some occasions, the masses were allowed (that is if you weren't out performing your task), and other times all you heard was a raucous clap from a tent nearby. I never did figure out how all of that was determined, but you are correct in your assessment that there are times when the crowd is not random.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Cant rep you OV, but bwahahahahaha.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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It's so interesting--I wondered how long it would take for a post like this. The troops must love Obama after all! There's picture proof!

I mean, his "surprise" visit wasn't contrived or anything. He was just sitting on the plane and said, "Take a left at Albuquerque."

Surely these were just random troops, not hand selected in any way.

No. Definitely not.
Way to be divisive, not even sparing the troops.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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lilypad, 3-1? Don't think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdN8XpL36Pk: Retired Generals support Obama

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...y-donors_N.htm

http://blog.reidreport.com/2008/08/m...ith-their.html
According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times McCain's haul.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15455.html
In the past two election cycles, Democrats have added ten new Democratic veterans to Congress. Last week, President-elect Barack Obama helped close the gap among military voters, winning 44 percent of veterans as opposed to John F. Kerry’s 41 percent in 2004.

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Old 04-07-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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Just like numbers to a statistician, isn't it reasonable to believe that you can find any number of people to support or defend any given viewpoint? Isn't it reasonable to believe that there are Generals out there that support President Bush's idea of managing a war?

Lets be honest with ourselves here.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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Big deal, M2F.
You're still not in the military, so you don't know as much as you might think.
Just like I don't know and I work with brigades of soldiers, and I'm a veteran.

I would venture to guess that ALL Obama visits are setup up as media events. And yes the people attending are hand picked. Example;

No Muslims allowed in Photo?

Oh and let us not forget the event that was canceled out of respect to the troops? Huh? Thought it would help their moral.

Obama cancels hospital visit when he find NO press is allowed?

Lets not kid ourselves. Facts are facts. No matter how you would like to spin them or limit their importance.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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Oh...are these the same troops that don't have the brains to decide about the Iraq War?

Just wondering.

...and I do know that when you're in the military, and you're told to be somewhere...you do it. So don't give me that horsesh*t.

For the record, I'm the daughter of a US Marine, and sister of USAF in Protocol at the Pentagon. I'm the sister-in-law and cousin of two family members serving right now in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm the niece of a retired Lt. Commander in the US Navy. I have a little knowledge on photo ops within the military. This ain't Bob Hope.

Great and my brothers cousins uncle's mother is an astronaut so that makes me a spcialist in space cadets like you who A$$ume they know the innerr workings of a military unit because they "know" people who have served. Maybe in the marine corp they can make you go see the President but in the Air Force it was ALWAYS optional.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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Great and my brothers cousins uncle's mother is an astronaut so that makes me a spcialist in space cadets like you who A$$ume they know the innerr workings of a military unit because they "know" people who have served. Maybe in the marine corp they can make you go see the President but in the Air Force it was ALWAYS optional.
I don't disagree that it was optional in your experience. In Baghdad, it was optional only if you were extended the invitation. The big question is, who decided who got an invitation? I can tell you from experience that not everyone was given the opportunity to go see any given dignitary. That leads me to believe that hand-picked crowds are more prevalent than you seem to want to acknowledge. Your experience is different, but that doesn't mean absolute policy.

When the "masses" were welcome, it truly was an optional event.
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