Are Americans really going to let Obama destroy capitalism? (drug, companies, abortion)
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Read the link I provided about Washington State about doctors leaving the most onerous liberal states.
For now, there may be a small increase in doctors, but they aren't keeping up with the increased demand. With the empty suit's healthcare hijack. Look for an actual decrease in doctors. Ah, the fruits of socialism. Thinking doctors should work on the cheap just because liberals tell them to.
Recent Studies and Reports on Physician Shortages in the US (http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:1_iSApfL-x4J:www.aamc.org/workforce/rcntwrkfce.pdf+number+of+doctors+practicing+is+dec reasing&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us - broken link)
Doctors are leaving the states with high Malpractice premiums. Many of those states are liberal states and include IL, NY, NJ, PA, WA and others. California has quite an attractive Malpractice climate.
There are new Doctors added to the system, but the shortage of Physicians is projected to worsen given population increased. It may take time for Physicians' salaries to completely collapse in light of Universal Healthcare but, if and when that happens (or it's more firmly in the cards), people will stop going to Medical School! You're talking about a field that requires at least 7 years of work (4 years of Med School and 3 years Residency) AFTER College. Going to a Public Medical School costs nearly $ 200K, while private schools are near $ 300K.
Doctors are leaving the states with high Malpractice premiums. Many of those states are liberal states and include IL, NY, NJ, PA, WA and others. California has quite an attractive Malpractice climate.
There are new Doctors added to the system, but the shortage of Physicians is projected to worsen given population increased. It may take time for Physicians' salaries to completely collapse in light of Universal Healthcare but, if and when that happens (or it's more firmly in the cards), people will stop going to Medical School! You're talking about a field that requires at least 7 years of work (4 years of Med School and 3 years Residency) AFTER College. Going to a Public Medical School costs nearly $ 200K, while private schools are near $ 300K.
Good.
I want a doctor who views medicine as a calling, not a financial opportunity.
Read the link I provided about Washington State about doctors leaving the most onerous liberal states.
For now, there may be a small increase in doctors, but they aren't keeping up with the increased demand. With the empty suit's healthcare hijack. Look for an actual decrease in doctors. Ah, the fruits of socialism. Thinking doctors should work on the cheap just because liberals tell them to.
Recent Studies and Reports on Physician Shortages in the US (http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:1_iSApfL-x4J:www.aamc.org/workforce/rcntwrkfce.pdf+number+of+doctors+practicing+is+dec reasing&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us - broken link)
Funny how you haven't mentioned the most MARKET-BASED, CONSERVATIVE solution to health care access, as advocated by the late Milton Friedman: end caps on medical school enrollment, allowing the immigration of more foreign doctors, and repealing the laws in many states prohibiting Latin American doctors from practicing medicine in those states. (Hmmm....it seems like if the alleged "Aztlanist conspiracy" that some on these boards mention really existed, the laws prohibiting doctors from Latin America from practicing in California especially would have been repealed long ago) I.e. lower the cost of medical care by increasing the supply of doctors.
This is the only market based alternative to UHC that seems somewhat workable. However, for a variety of reasons, it would be even more politically controversial than universal health care would be.
OK. Great. A couple of examples from your whole life. Tsk. Tsk. No wonder liberals ever do much. Their minds are totally closed. I guess that's from never feeling in control.
There is a leftwing mindset, a narrative that goes like this: Get a job working for somebody else, probably in a 9-to-5 job. You'll have a terrible greedy boss, but that's what you've got to settle for. It's you against him. It's worker against management. You make sure you get yours. It doesn't matter about the company. They're rich anyway. Just make sure they don't hose you. Then when you retire, Uncle Sam will take care of you.
Notice no thought is ever given to autonomy or personal responsibility. And certainly no thought is ever given to running your own business. After all, companies are evil. You have to have inherited a lot of money from a relative who got rich off the back of workers in order to have a business.
I just gave you two of many examples.
What are you Babbling about????????????
Do you really believe what you are saying or just trying to "wind people up" on here?
I really cannot believe that a inteligent person such as youself is saying the absurd things that you are.
You get 100% for trying and 0% for knowing what you are talking about.
It doesn't matter about the company. They're rich anyway. Just make sure they don't hose you.
Given the number of layoffs, pension reductions or eliminations, healthcare coverage reductions, and other cutbacks in recent months and years... you'd be foolish not to be "looking out for #1" if you work for a larger company.
I think you have an unrealistically sunny view of how corporate markets work. In many cases, there is no actual market incentive in the way you are thinking of it, since the company's leaders are looking to do things other than what you might expect - perhaps they want to effect a sale to another company, but need to get the stock price down a bit to make the sale more attractive. Perhaps the CEO is a short-termer whose contract only incentivizes performance in terms of quarterly profits, leading the CEO to take wild risks to pump up the quarterly numbers before bailing out (and if the ploy fails, the golden parachute is still there...)
You also leave out the nature of a lot of corporate profit-seeking, which involves violence to the free market - attempts to create monopolies, fix prices, get sweetheart contracts through lobbying and bribes...
Corporations are amoral. Their job is to maximize profits by any means that can be gotten away with, legal or not, ethical or not. Always remember that.
obama? we haven't had a free market in this country in almost a 100 years.
How true, the slide to poop began under Wilson, enforced by FDR, blown out of control by LBJ, enforced again by Carter, then went full bore nutcase with Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and now Comrade Obama.
Yes, Obama is not helping but we sure as heck did not get here in 100 days, 2 years, or 10. This is part of our problem in America, we think in minutes not months. Keep in mind it was Bush II who gave us the Ownership Act of America in 2005, which brought the foreclosure issues of today. Some say under Bush we were not attacked, true, we were "invaded" by over 20 million illegals from Mexico, Central and South America, etc.
Obama did not destroy our corporate stucture, yet. But the Clinton/Bush dynasty did provide the destruction of America's industry. By providing the highest corporate tax in the world we have seen our manufacturing base disappear.
So, to answer your question and cut it short.
QUESTION: ARE AMERICANS REALLY GOING TO LET OBAMA DESTROY CAPITALISM?
ANSWER: YES, WE HAVE LET IT ERODE FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS AND AT WARP SPEED FOR THE LAST 20!
I want a doctor who views medicine as a calling, not a financial opportunity.
We can leave money-grubbing to the lawyers.
Yeah. Four years of undergrad. Four years of med school. Two years of residency. Big student loans. Big malpractice premiums. And you want them to do it for peanuts. Yes, the medical field will be crowded now that the socialists have taken over.
Given the number of layoffs, pension reductions or eliminations, healthcare coverage reductions, and other cutbacks in recent months and years... you'd be foolish not to be "looking out for #1" if you work for a larger company.
I think you have an unrealistically sunny view of how corporate markets work. In many cases, there is no actual market incentive in the way you are thinking of it, since the company's leaders are looking to do things other than what you might expect - perhaps they want to effect a sale to another company, but need to get the stock price down a bit to make the sale more attractive. Perhaps the CEO is a short-termer whose contract only incentivizes performance in terms of quarterly profits, leading the CEO to take wild risks to pump up the quarterly numbers before bailing out (and if the ploy fails, the golden parachute is still there...)
You also leave out the nature of a lot of corporate profit-seeking, which involves violence to the free market - attempts to create monopolies, fix prices, get sweetheart contracts through lobbying and bribes...
Corporations are amoral. Their job is to maximize profits by any means that can be gotten away with, legal or not, ethical or not. Always remember that.
Know what I've learned after 20 years in business? It's the corny old saw that treating people right and doing the right thing by employees, customers, and vendors really does produce the best results. I know that will come as a surprise to cynical liberals who have never called shots in their lives. But that's truly the way it is. The cutthroat cloak-and-dagger stuff is for Hollywood. People who lie, cheat, or crap on other people never succeed in the long run. I've seen it over and over.
1) Are any of you like me in that you do not understand how Americans could possibly allow an incompetent inexperienced socialist marionette destroy every enterprise we have held dear for two centuries?Jeeez, what you tell us what you really think of the President.
2) Does it seem like he's getting it done without even a whimper? Nope, because he hasn't.
3) Does it seem like so many are nonchalant about Obama taking away freedoms we may never enjoy again? Such as the best healthcare system in the world?Which feedoms would those be, I do not recall loosing any freedoms? Obama is not pushing a national health care system, either you missed the news or are spreading propaganda, which is it?
4) Are you amazed that Republicans have forgotten the formula that always wins elections and always fixes the economy? That is, cutting spending and taxes?
On that we agree, the Republicans became NEOCONS, years ago and if I recall the majority of righwinger posters were backing them up.
5) Are you surprised the mainstream media has abandoned all pretenses of fairness --even for them-- to support this circus clown as he destroys our nation?
MSM has been biased for years, almostv as bad as FOX. More name calling, how old are you?
I refuse to believe America will turn into Europe. Think about it. The people who comprise the United States descended from people who had the gumption to move here from another country to seek a better life. Surely, that same drive and initiative will prevent them from allowing Obama to take away their way of living.Big accusation, so now back it up with the facts. My way of life is doing just fine. Infaltion is coming, thanks to Bush, Obama and the Congress so there will be a price to pay FYI, the same was going to happen if Obama or McCain won, or did you miss that also?
Or maybe most people ARE up in arms, but the MSM is squelching it to make it appear the manchild is loved and his programs are popular.Well now, you have gone into fantasy, sorry but the reality is the opposite.
SURELY, these enterprising people will derail this idiot in 2010 by electing conservative Congressmen to stop him. There are still conservatives? can you name some, some that have a snowballs chance in hell of getting nominated by the Republican Party, not to mention elected?
Casper
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