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Old 06-06-2009, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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BTW, I agree with you there. I'm appalled too at the number of folks, especially younger men (!), who don't have even the most rudimentary mechanical skills or even the inclination to learn! Am assuming it comes from living in a disposable culture.
It comes from them living with moms who do everything for them. I remember chatting with friend whose son was going off to college. I mentioned something about laundry, and she said "I guess I better teach him how to do that". At the time, my then 12 year old daughter knew how to run the washer and dryer.
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Old 06-06-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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They don't mock a person for not being educated. They mock him for being stupid...which are mutually exclusive.

Stupid people vote against their interests and are easily lead.
There are lots of stupid people who are educated.
There are lots of stupid people who are not educated.
There are lots of stupid people.
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Old 06-06-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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In this country there are formal education opportunities everywhere. Anyone can go to community college, and then if they want to transfer to a four-year school. Scholarships and grants are there for the taking for anyone. For most people schools will bend over backwards to help.

This country wants an educated population -- why not take advantage of that?
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Old 06-06-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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You really live in an "us versus them" world, don't you?
You need to read this to yourself in the mirror. Then repeat 99 times. Then read the title of your thread. Maybe it will sink in.

Didn't slog through this whole stupid thread, but just looked at the link from the OP and noticed that almost everybody on the list was college educated. They just did not graduate with a four year degree. Some even attended for more than four years.

Then the OP calls college a waste of time?
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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mateo45, thanks for the exceptional links; the Brin piece is especially interesting, and the Frankenstein analogy an apt one. I haven't seen any
posts discussing them and find that curious, especially considering the numerous threads and posts we have seen speculating on the fate of the
Republican Party and its attempts to forge a definitive platform. Inclusive
would describe a healthy position for the GOP to take, but it seems unlikely at this point. One would think that reading a book or three about Theodore Roosevelt would be a good start.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:08 PM
 
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It comes from them living with moms who do everything for them .
I think it goes beyond just their Mom but a society as whole. mateo45 made the point it's about our dispoasable society and that is part of it too. But you also have an emphasis on learning books and the basics have gone to the way side. Parents don't have the time or fail to teach their kids this, it's no longer part of the curriculum in many schools. I'd also blame over protective parents too, parents seem to think they nee to wrap their kid in a bubble and protect them from everthing, instead of letting little Johhny learn to use a hammer at age 3 they don't because it's inevitable he's going to smack his thumb with it. So what? He hits his thumb a few times he quickly learns it's probably a good idea not to do that.

It's just like learning advanced subjects in school, many people may never use the algebra they learned in H.S. and you may never need to know how to change the tire on a car but you'll be damn glad you have that knowledge if the need ever arises.
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