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Show me anywhere in the Bible where Jesus said 'Get your government to feed the poor.'
No, He said YOU feed the poor.
If you want to practice Christian charity, the only Biblical way to do it is with your own money, not forcing someone else to do it with theirs.
Trying to control what others do with their money has a Biblical word: Covetousness.
Christian charity is not a public function, but a private one.
Matt 6:1"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
So the collective "YOU" would exclude a government of the people, for the people, and by the people? Hummmmm.
You know that part about when you give to the needy do not let your left hadn know what your right hand is doing.........have you ever thought that might mean that when you GIVE to the poor you don't have STRINGS ATTACHED? MAYBE, just MAYBE, giving to the poor is really intended to be a blessing for YOU and YOUR SOCIETY and not simply just for the receipient.........
The other problem that is blatantly obvious with the OP is that conservatives don't really oppose the idea of welfare. They see that welfare has become a massive magnet for the LAZY who are able bodied and able minded, yet would rather suck on the government tit than to get up and be productive citizens. The majority of conservatives agree that welfare is okay for those that actually need it. The Dems need welfare for the lazy because it buys votes. The lazy will vote for the Dems because they are scared that the Reps might actually put something in place that would reduce the number of LAZY people who are on welfare because they choose to be as opposed to people who really are down on their luck and genuinely need a helping hand to sustain the basic necessities of life.
If the welfare system was not so heavily abused, I would not oppose it, even though I believe private donations to non-government charities is a much better way to handle helping those in need.
You got any numbers on the assertions you make above?
How do you know which people on welfare are LAZY and which ones are genuinely needy? Whereds you get the numbers to support those beliefs?
So the collective "YOU" would exclude a government of the people, for the people, and by the people? Hummmmm.
You know that part about when you give to the needy do not let your left hadn know what your right hand is doing.........have you ever thought that might mean that when you GIVE to the poor you don't have STRINGS ATTACHED? MAYBE, just MAYBE, giving to the poor is really intended to be a blessing for YOU and YOUR SOCIETY and not simply just for the receipient.........
It also says if a man doesn't work he shouldn't eat .
As a liberal, how do you feel about governmental bureaucrats who are "serving the poor" having high salaries, lifetime pensions and other lavish benefits that most don't enjoy?
Can you cite some of those "high salaries" made by low-level bureaucrats who actually work distributing those services to the poor??
Do you actually have any data to back up your claim of HIGH SALARIES, LIFETIME PENSIONS, and "OTHER LAVISH BENEFITS" received by the low level bureaucrats who work for state and fed government "processing" such help to the poor and needy?
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Can you cite some of those "high salaries" made by low-level bureaucrats who actually work distributing those services to the poor??
Do you actually have any data to back up your claim of HIGH SALARIES, LIFETIME PENSIONS, and "OTHER LAVISH BENEFITS" received by the low level bureaucrats who work for state and fed government "processing" such help to the poor and needy?
As an example, I used to work as a clerical employee (low-end employee) and my pay was much higher than what the private industry would have paid me and I received an excellent benefit package which included 13 paid holidays, 8 hours of sick leave per month, health/dental benefits which only requires 10 dollar co-payments, lifetime pension upon retirement, $50 dollars towards my public transit pass as well as other perks that are not usually available in the private sector.
You got any numbers on the assertions you make above?
How do you know which people on welfare are LAZY and which ones are genuinely needy? Whereds you get the numbers to support those beliefs?
Do you have numbers to the contrary? Most of the people I have known who have received welfare have been extremely lazy. Beyond a physical or mental handicap, there is NO reason why someone cannot fend for themselves in this country. Fending for yourself INCLUDES making wise choices.
Having 12 kids as a single mother with a $7 hr job is not a wise choice.
Refusing to save for retirement and then turning 65 with no savings is not a wise choice.
Receiving government welfare and then watching American Idol instead of reading to learn something new and marketable is not a wise choice.
My hard earned dollars should not go to support people who have made poor decisions.
No where in the Bible is it suggested that they should.
He does a good job at mocking the poor by labelling them all as LAZY.
Laziness is a conservative trait.
It is a conservative method of conservation of energy.
lazy |ˈlāzē|
adjective ( lazier , laziest )
1 unwilling to work or use energy : I'm very lazy by nature | he was too lazy to cook.
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