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Old 07-17-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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The only way to save the country is to let people who pay federal taxes of any kind, vote.
It used to be white, male landowners.

But what a lot of people seem not to understand is America is over, our democracy is finished being replaced by something closer to what they have in Brazil or Peru.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship."


Maybe civilization as we know it won't end in a bang... but an embattled, overworked whimper.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:16 AM
 
Location: On Top
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There are millions of examples but I'll start off with three.


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Old 07-17-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Sounds like Starship Troopers, a fascist's dream world! In other words the OP would love it.
Seems the word "fascist" is pretty popular being thrown around like it is but I think most wouldn't know what a fascist was if he got bit on the butt by one.

Facism is a welding of big business, like banks, GM and Ford, to government. Kind of like what we are moving into under Obama.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: NC
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Is it right that a drug addled homeless guy living over a grate gets the same vote as a business owner with 3 kids who provides jobs for a dozen people and pays taxes that subsidize two or three liberal 'families'?

Is it right that someone on welfare, food stamps and public housing who pays no taxes gets to vote hardworking folks a tax increase?

Is it right that one political party gets to consolidate its future power by creating new classes of dependents whose vote they are essentially buying?

Is it right that the mainstream media openly and actively campaigns for an unqualified incompetent because he's socialist? And uneducated undiscerning ignoramuses believe everything the MSM says?


Here's the cure. When the adults get back in power, they should pass laws that will eliminate what I call the dumbass vote:

1) Make the minimum voting age 30. Age gives perspective. For example, if you aren't old enough to remember we've been here before with Bill Clinton's con game and failed attempts at socialism, you can't appreciate the disaster Obama is heading our country for.

2) Allow only income earners to vote. If you aren't contributing, you shouldn't get a say. Plain and simple.

3) Make every single voter produce an ID and cross check it with voter registration and signature. Democrats who have cried crocodile tears over alleged voter fraud over the years have fought the commonsense measure of voter ID tooth and nail. The reason is obvious. Then dead people couldn't vote and ACORN recruits couldn't vote five times apiece.
All I have to say to this is highly unconstitutional. You do realize 1. is a direct violation of the 26th Amendment and 2. the way you state it could easily be seen as a violation of the 24th Amendment.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: NJ
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i would love for people to be tested in order to be allowed to vote.

democrats dont like this idea, because they count on the stupid to vote their way.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes +
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Is it right that someone on welfare, food stamps and public housing who pays no taxes gets to vote hardworking folks a tax increase?

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Of course it is. Your quarrel is misplaced. You're mad at the system and blaming the victim. Welfare, food stamps, public housing are all governmental reforms, given to the people by the government, so why shouldn't they vote? The government, apparently, isn't in agreement with you on this.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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Seems the word "fascist" is pretty popular being thrown around like it is but I think most wouldn't know what a fascist was if he got bit on the butt by one.

Facism is a welding of big business, like banks, GM and Ford, to government. Kind of like what we are moving into under Obama.
Well, I guess authoritarian would be better use of the word, but if you remove the voting blocks the OP doesn't like then you will probably get an even worse corporate oligarchy than we currently have.

And it didn't start with Obama dude, corporations have been running the show for a while. Network came out in like the 70s and it spotted this trend.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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Well that would mean that in this country we should distribute votes by income.That way the people that vote must have something at stake when they vote to spend more money. Nothng better than risk to make people think before wanting free stuff and risking others money and the national welfare.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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i would love for people to be tested in order to be allowed to vote.

democrats dont like this idea, because they count on the stupid to vote their way.
Democrats don't like the idea because it was done back when they were trying to stop black people from voting.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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I hope this is a joke
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