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....and how many people die here in the US because of having no insurance, or because their insurance company found a way to deny payment of their treatment?
Posting this article to somehow slam socialized medicine is bulls**t, at best.
Well that is a good reason to rush headlong into this. trade one set of problems for the same set of problems. Yeah that's sensible.
Note that active alcohol and substance abuse or reasons to NOT transplant a liver to someone. So this guy would be out of luck no matter where he is.
Morally, he doesn't deserve a liver if he is going to continue to abuse it. Someone who will make good use of it and live a long life and take care of the gift they have been given should have it. Those are the rules here and the UK. Its only reasonable.
OK now you have read the sensational post..here are the FACTS about this case.
Gary Reinbach was refused a liver transplant after HE refused to stop his drinking. He had cirrhosis of the Liver caused by extreme alcoholism. He was offered a transplant on condition that he stopped drinking as it would be futile to give him a new Liver if he continued abusing it. The rule is that if you make a honest attempt to stop drinking you will be given a transplant. The decision was his. He knew that if he didn't stop drinking he would not get a transplant. He point blank refused to stop drinking so the offer of a transplant was removed so that the Liver could be used on someone who also needed this valuable liver and would be prepared to take the medication required and not abuse the new liver.
Liver transplants are performed on alcoholics all the time in the UK but livers are valuable to many who need the transplant and it would be wrong to deny someone a liver in favour of someone who needs it because of self inflicted problems and with absolutely no desire to keep his new liver healthy or possibly not be in a state to take the anti rejection drugs.
The truth is far from what was trying to be implied here.
Nope not the case he entered rehab shortly before becoming sick.
Well that is a good reason to rush headlong into this. trade one set of problems for the same set of problems. Yeah that's sensible.
So you think this poor man would have somehow been miraculously "saved" here in the United States? I doubt it somehow and I also suspect that people with your mindset would be the first to condemn the poor man, along the lines of "why should I pay for his drunk a**".
So you think this poor man would have somehow been miraculously "saved" here in the United States? I doubt it somehow and I also suspect that people with your mindset would be the first to condemn the poor man, along the lines of "why should I pay for his drunk a**".
Prove me wrong....oh wait, you can't.
Very interesting argument you ascribe traits to me then challenge me to refute the traits you ascribe to me. Wow how did Mensa let you get away?
It also seems to me your kind dismiss his fate because you imagine it happens here. Nothing more malicious than the loony left when they are trying to make a point no matter how deranged that point may be.
Again folks I am telling you the desperation is palpable.
Are you going to answer the question, or are you going to dodge the issue, like a used car salesman?
And what is the question, why does the left want alcoholics to die? Ah yes the party of compassion LMAO!
And exactly how do used car salesmen dodge issues? I have never bought one wouldn't know but this is a fascinating observation like many of your others. i am sure their is an interesting explanation for that turn of a phrase. You are quite the wordsmith!
And what is the question, why does the left want alcoholics to die? Ah yes the party of compassion LMAO!
And exactly how do used car salesmen dodge issues? I have never bought one wouldn't know but this is a fascinating observation like many of your others. i am sure their is an interesting explanation for that turn of a phrase. You are quite the wordsmith!
I think you must have been a Dodge salesman.
Simple question: Are poor, uninsured alcoholics given liver transplants in the US? If yes, then we have a better system than England - case closed. If no, then a single anecdote from England proves squat and the OP is just fear mongering.
So answer, please.
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