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Old 07-24-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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Since when is making a "your momma" comment an indication of insanity? When is it even threatening? And if he acted so "crazy" that the cops had just cause to arrest him, why did they drop the charges? I think people are grasping a straws here. Someone else mention "spin." Who's doing the spinning? The same person who cried "spin" accused the President of "calling the cops 'stupid.'"
When cops ask one to show ID one does not say something like" IS it because I am black and you are white???" He was acting insaying.
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:58 AM
 
Location: A wonderful, socioeconomically, ethnically, and culturally diverse little town
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They cannot allow it to get to the point where people will think it is routine and proper to verbally assault and harass the police over a traffic ticket, and then they start to lose control.
The law doesn't allow for making examples of people for the sake of policing attitudes.
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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The reason police arrest people for publicly treating the police with abusive and aggravated harassment is because they cannot afford to allow open hostility towards the police in public. They cannot allow it to get to the point where people will think it is routine and proper to verbally assault and harass the police over a traffic ticket, and then they start to lose control.

i understand the reason for the disorderly conduct arrests, however the officer should know how to deal with a situation where the other party is baiting or in a hostile mood. I'm sure in his 10 year career he has dealt with that before.
If Gates steped off his porch, yes arrest him for continuing to follow and cause a scene, but he did not step off the porch. They both were wrong, totally wrong and again, i have a Bigger issue with the way Gates conducted himself. That is something i would expect from Sharpton, not from a Scholar, highly regarded professor of African American History.
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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When cops ask one to show ID one does not say something like" IS it because I am black and you are white???" He was acting insaying.
The First Amendment says he can ask whatever he likes. He didn't commit a crime.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:00 AM
 
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The law doesn't allow for making examples of people for the sake of policing attitudes.
Even if that was an attitude issue it was not a black and white issue that Obama made it into.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:01 AM
 
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The First Amendment says he can ask whatever he likes. He didn't commit a crime.
As i have already mentioned: EVEN IF i agreed with you, that was not black and white issues until OBAMA made it one.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:02 AM
 
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Even if that was an attitude issue it was not a black and white issue that Obama made it into.

The President did not make it one, the Media had already took it there. Gates and the Media already went there. There are several things the President can rightful be accused of, but making this a race issue is not one of them. Maybe you should go back and listen to what he actually said. Grant it, he walked into the discussion, but did not start it.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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Even if that was an attitude issue it was not a black and white issue that Obama made it into.
That is false. Obama clearly indicated that he did not think race played a role in this incident, but rather people mistakenly thought so because of prior racial profiling by police. Have you actually listened to his comments?
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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Since when is making a "your momma" comment an indication of insanity? When is it even threatening? '"
The Cambridge police have audio tapes of Gates ranting. They will eventually be released. He sounded like a maniac, per the cops.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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The President did not make it one, the Media had already when there. Gates and the Media already went there. There are several things the President can rightful be accused of, but making this a race issue is not one of them. Maybe you should go back and listen to what he actually said. Grant it, he walked into the discussion, but did not start it.
I have listened well what he said. HE made this into a race issue. I have no doubt in my mind that the cops would have acted the same way if that professor was white. The cop was investigating a possible break in and the man (black white or purple) is giving him an attitude and does not want to cooperate. No racism there until Obama got involved.
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