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Old 07-25-2009, 04:57 PM
 
Location: AL
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Originally Posted by hotair2 View Post
When did Healthcare become a "right"?

When, we the people, voted for representatives that would make it so. If they don't, we will vote them out and get someone that will. Give up...we won't

Hmm kind of not smart.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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I am a diabetic, as a result, I take multiple medications and require test strips to test my blood. I got laid off in March and have no insurance, yet I have plenty of options.Walmart sells my meds without needing insurance for $4, Walgreens has "minute clinics" that will charge you anywhere from $25 to $100 for Dr visits. I can get by, and if there is an emergency, I can go to an emergency clinic that charges $50. Anyone can avail themselves of these services without demanding everyone else pay for it.
What will you do if you develop a diabetic complication, such as retinopathy? How will you pay your opthamologist? What if you require surgery?

As the mother of a diabetic child, I can assure you that paying for routine diabetic supplies is the least of the expenses that a diabetic incurs. If you should develop any kind of illness that requires a hospitalization, who is going to cover your expenses? If you can't pay, who will???
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Are you well versed on the Constitution?
Yes, quite well versed. And here is a link to a copy for your reading enjoyment. And guess what, you don't have a "right" to healthcare. Nor does the Constitution exist to protect people's feelings, which seems to be another big misunderstanding in today's society. In fact, it's just the opposite. Here's a link, see if you can find our right to "healthcare" in there anywhere.

The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Now, with that settled, let me say I feel a lot of you have your hearts in the right place. The supporters of a healthcare bill really seem to believe it would be a wonderful step forward for our country. I think you are good people, especially if you want this so that everyone would be taken care of. The problem is, this plan is not going to accomplish what you want. It isn't even healthcare reform, it is insurance reform. We are just going to be forced to switch insurance companies. They aren't actually reforming anything in the actual healthcare arena. Also, I don't think you realize the people who are pushing for this don't have the same feelings about the situation as regular people do. They have never had to worry about healthcare or insurance. They aren't people like us, so how can they know how to fix it. This plan is not being made in your best interest because the people who are writing it don't know how to think like you nor do they know how it feels to be just a regular citizen with regular problems. That is why you should not trust this sort of deal. It was not written by people who care for you. It was not written by people who ever plan to be a part of the system they are establishing for you. You want healthcare reform, then it needs to come from the people themselves. Not the suits in Washington. They do not have your best interests in mind. They work to sustain the government and extend it's power. That's it and that's all.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:12 PM
 
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One of the most "ignorant posts" that I have read on this forum. "Rational" ---not! Lazy and lackadaisical.
On what do you base this conclusion?
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What will you do if you develop a diabetic complication, such as retinopathy? How will you pay your opthamologist? What if you require surgery?

As the mother of a diabetic child, I can assure you that paying for routine diabetic supplies is the least of the expenses that a diabetic incurs. If you should develop any kind of illness that requires a hospitalization, who is going to cover your expenses? If you can't pay, who will???
I also suffer from Diabetic Neuropathy of my feet. If I should need to get assistance, I will get insurance. I dont expect John Q Public to foot the bill (no pun intended)
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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I also suffer from Diabetic Neuropathy of my feet. If I should need to get assistance, I will get insurance. I dont expect John Q Public to foot the bill (no pun intended)
No insurance will cover you, and if they did it would be sky high and then they'd just deny your claims. Its hard to fathom your vitriol towards others in the same boat as yourself, but Republicans seem to do this quite often. I have a co worker of mine going bankrupt over medical bills when his daughter became ill, and is just like you. He voted for Bush twice and McCain Palin all the way. Loves to scream "Socialism" all the time too.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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No insurance will cover you, and if they did it would be sky high and then they'd just deny your claims. Its hard to fathom your vitriol towards others in the same boat as yourself, but Republicans seem to do this quite often. I have a co worker of mine going bankrupt over medical bills when his daughter became ill, and is just like you. He voted for Bush twice and McCain Palin all the way. Loves to scream "Socialism" all the time too.
Glad to hear he is exercising one of his actual rights. His freedom of speech.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I am still unemployed, and I finally got my unemployment. Thats what i am living off of. Thats what I am using to pay for my healthcare.
I'm glad you got your unemployment. I hope you have some other savings, because ins. will take a huge chunk of your unemployment check. And the previous posters are correct about getting ind. coverage with a pre-existing condition.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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I also suffer from Diabetic Neuropathy of my feet. If I should need to get assistance, I will get insurance. I dont expect John Q Public to foot the bill (no pun intended)
Very cavalierly stated. Chances are, if you are experiencing diabetic complications you will be unable to find private health insurance - at any price. Your only recourse will be to go on the 'public teat' - for which, if there's any justice in this world, you will be refused.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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Glad to hear he is exercising one of his actual rights. His freedom of speech.
Can you expand on the meaning of this post?
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