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Old 08-04-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
So what!!!!!!!!!! They are still human beings. Also 36 million are American meaning that over 10% of Americans have no insurance. unacceptable!
Why should an American healthcare system be paying for non Americans?

Also AGAIN of the remaining 36 million,over 16 million earn more than $50,000 a year and of that 9 million earn over $75,000.

They can buy their own damned insurance.

And on top of that several million have access to gov. paid healthcare but have not signed up.


This is a solution looking for a problem....
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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1 person, 2, 3,4 or more?
It's a Blue Cross group family plan at my company. There are only 2 of us, but I don't think the plan changes with family size. I think it's just single or family.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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who made that up anyhow? in case you haven't noticed MILLIONS of americans are currently out of work.
Millions of Americans are currently out of work.. yes.. but how many of those unemployed are actually going to a restaurant and mopping up floors and washing dishes.. or becoming maids??

How many are standing on a street corner to mow grass?

i'm not saying illegal immigration is right .. but what I'm saying is that they do come here and do the menial jobs that many .. no most of us..wouldn't want to do and find below our intellectual level is all.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I keep asking....still can't get anybody to answer.
How much do you think YOU are going to be paying per year on the proposed "Obama" plan ?
How much coverage do you think you will get for it
I will keep my insurance coverage but I would like to see healthcare provided to all in America, especially children. That is the humane thing to do and a public health issue for sure.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Wouldn't providing free healthcare promote MORE illegal immigration???
Especially when it is coupled with the other free services offered.

Are you in favor of uncontrolled illegal immigration?
Off topic.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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It's a Blue Cross group family plan at my company. There are only 2 of us, but I don't think the plan changes with family size. I think it's just single or family.
Blue Cross and most plans charge for single, two or family and family can be any number of size.. BUT the jump from two to three is pretty .. well high.. . If you have 3 people in your family you could end up paying much more for a family plan than if you paid for three individuals.. depending.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:50 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Come on now. I thought America was the "shining city on a hill".
Where have you been???

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Have you no compassion for the poor and suffering?
Not particularly,I am not my brothers keeper...stop pushing your beliefs on me.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Yeah the illegal immigrants are only here to do the hard and unpleasant labor jobs, that no American wants, for slave wages! Who is stealing from whom?
LOL...ummm no they aren't.

They were taking jobs,working for less money than Americans and causing americans to lose what were formerly good paying jobs.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:51 AM
 
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Millions of Americans are currently out of work.. yes.. but how many of those unemployed are actually going to a restaurant and mopping up floors and washing dishes.. or becoming maids??

How many are standing on a street corner to mow grass?

i'm not saying illegal immigration is right .. but what I'm saying is that they do come here and do the menial jobs that many .. no most of us..wouldn't want to do and find below our intellectual level is all.
that is such an arrogant post. how do you know what americans are willing to do to keep their families fed? you can only speak for yourself, not for what other americans are or are not willing to do.
i notice that you did not even address how illegal immigration does drive down wages for working americans. you don't want to go there!
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't advocate a Canadian System...
I only looked quickly so this is some years ago.
Swiss health-care system might serve as model for U.S. - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

"In 2003, Switzerland spent an average of $3,781 per person on health care"

$3,781 x 3......

That do it?
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