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GD you ARE paying for illegals to go to the hospital at this very moment.
In fact, they use the emergency room like its a doctors office.
I have heard the argument "keep goverment out of healthcare" however, there are very successful goverment programs such as medicare and the VA that are working fine.
GD you ARE paying for illegals to go to the hospital at this very moment.
In fact, they use the emergency room like its a doctors office.
I have heard the argument "keep goverment out of healthcare" however, there are very successful goverment programs such as medicare and the VA that are working fine.
medicare is NOT successful...it is going bankrupt,,,and it does NOT cover evrything, that is why you have to BUY suplemnetal insurance.
the VA is a poor choice to use for a success...the VA ONLY covers "in the line of duty" problems,,otherwise and for all other issues the FIRST thing they ask you is do you have insurance.....I am a Veteran
GD you ARE paying for illegals to go to the hospital at this very moment.
In fact, they use the emergency room like its a doctors office.
I have heard the argument "keep goverment out of healthcare" however, there are very successful goverment programs such as medicare and the VA that are working fine.
Hospitals and ER's are now closing in Arizona (southern) because of illegal immigrants.
The only reason someone here should use the ER is for Life Threatening issues - no other reason. And more and more ER's, not only in AZ, but around the country - are turning illegals AWAY for non threatening treatment
Medicare is ripe with fraud and mismanagement. Also, more and more doctors have stopped taking Medicare and patients / seniors are losing their doctors - doctors that in some cases, the senior has had for years.
As for the VA - it is not "working fine". While there are some examples of exceptions - many of the VA facilities are old, out of date with far less than up to date equipment - understaffed etc. Frankly (and there are exceptions to this statement), the VA is the LAST place you would want to go.
Now, let me share with you what is turning out to be THE MAIN CONCERN with Americans about these pieces of legislation.
These proposals are some of the most extensive and complex changes ever done in the Congress. They will impact literally every man, woman and child in this country. These proposals will literally impact the life or death of Americans.
If you can agree with the above - then you might understand the concerns by a MAJORITY of Americans - why is the Congress and this Administration PUSHING / RUSHING this legislation.
There are a lot of questions to be answered - we need them answered BEFORE the bill passes. There ARE a lot of 'Tweaks" that need to be done - DO THEM before the bill passes.
The fact the Democrats and this President are pushing to pass this bill - so quickly - is making the American people - of all political bents, very suspicious - "what are they trying to hide"?
This legislation needs to be discussed - openly - which it is not being done - in all 50 states and all the territories. It needs to be discussed in each state legislature as much of the implementation will be left to the states - in currently unfunded mandates.
So, I will ask this question: "What are they trying to hide"? Why the rush.
I don't neccesarily feel it is being "rushed".. this has been a LONG LONG time coming.
I feel that the urgency, with all those being laid off and losing coverage, is really hurting and puttin a choke hold on this country.
The last president sat on his laurels in regard to this issue for the last 8 years.
I can't wait for reform. What happens if I get sick in the interim because we had to move at a snails pace after having been at a standstill for the last 8 years?
Obama has been working hard and fast to turn the direction of this country around on ALL fronts.
HC GREATLY affects our economy.. one this is hurting now.. one that is slipping from the top as being the "best" nation in the country.. because our HC issues are preventing us from being able to actualy compete with other countries.. countries that haven't been sitting on their proverbial asses for the last ..w ell for quite some time on issues of HC.
Perhaps this break will give everyone a chance to READ IT.. but instead, too many people are buying hte lies thrown out there. I know that there are some questions.. ADDRESS THOSE.. it is now STALLED until after the break.. yet here we are addressing issues of falsehoods perpetrated by Foes (insurance industry) to defeat it rather than talking about the "concerns" that need to be tweaked.
THAT is what infuriates me. NOT that people are questioning those things.. but instead I'm reading from people about the LIES and things that do not actually EXIST in that legislation. And it floors me.
open note to marie antionette
america, 300 million inhabitants, 10% are unemployed, 15% uninsured.
if you are wealthy and jose and maria are doing the garden and cleaning the house, these are meaningless figures. if jr is still being sent to hawaii on his birthday this being his 40th, my concerns about the needy americans are of little importance to you.
I don't neccesarily feel it is being "rushed".. this has been a LONG LONG time coming
Let's be honest TM - when were the 5 bills introduced by the Democrats in the House of Representatives? When was the 1000 pg bill introduced.
TM - while I understand the "long time" in coming - that frankly cannot be the issue. We are having to deal with the legislation that was, for all practical purposes, recently introduced.
2 months is NOT enough time TM - This bill needs to be PERFECT when it comes out (if it comes out) - because peoples lives are at stake from the moment it goes into effect. It cannot be half as sed TM - it simply cannot.
Frankly - we have the time to get it right - there is absolutely NO REASON not to get it right - the first time TM
I don't neccesarily feel it is being "rushed".. this has been a LONG LONG time coming.
I feel that the urgency, with all those being laid off and losing coverage, is really hurting and puttin a choke hold on this country.
The last president sat on his laurels in regard to this issue for the last 8 years.
I can't wait for reform. What happens if I get sick in the interim because we had to move at a snails pace after having been at a standstill for the last 8 years?
Obama has been working hard and fast to turn the direction of this country around on ALL fronts.
HC GREATLY affects our economy.. one this is hurting now.. one that is slipping from the top as being the "best" nation in the country.. because our HC issues are preventing us from being able to actualy compete with other countries.. countries that haven't been sitting on their proverbial asses for the last ..w ell for quite some time on issues of HC.
Perhaps this break will give everyone a chance to READ IT.. but instead, too many people are buying hte lies thrown out there. I know that there are some questions.. ADDRESS THOSE.. it is now STALLED until after the break.. yet here we are addressing issues of falsehoods perpetrated by Foes (insurance industry) to defeat it rather than talking about the "concerns" that need to be tweaked.
THAT is what infuriates me. NOT that people are questioning those things.. but instead I'm reading from people about the LIES and things that do not actually EXIST in that legislation. And it floors me.
Why can we not expand a basic catastrophic Medicaid to all unemployed workers that had, but have lost health coverage on a temporary basis....like a year?
Might be better than giving people about that same amount to buy new cars
Why can we not expand a basic catastrophic Medicaid to all unemployed workers that had, but have lost health coverage on a temporary basis....like a year?
Might be better than giving people about that same amount to buy new cars
That's an excellent point. They just appropriated 2 Billion dollars to buy cars.
Why not appropriate 2 billion dollars (or whatever) to let people without insurance - get it?
Why can we not expand a basic catastrophic Medicaid to all unemployed workers that had, but have lost health coverage on a temporary basis....like a year?
Might be better than giving people about that same amount to buy new cars
right now the government is supplementing Cobra and extending unemployment benefits.
Let's be honest TM - when were the 5 bills introduced by the Democrats in the House of Representatives? When was the 1000 pg bill introduced.
TM - while I understand the "long time" in coming - that frankly cannot be the issue. We are having to deal with the legislation that was, for all practical purposes, recently introduced.
2 months is NOT enough time TM - This bill needs to be PERFECT when it comes out (if it comes out) - because peoples lives are at stake from the moment it goes into effect. It cannot be half as sed TM - it simply cannot.
Frankly - we have the time to get it right - there is absolutely NO REASON not to get it right - the first time TM
Again I do believe it should be "right" and perhaps this time is needed to get it right.
However, it will not be "righted" until people address the REAL issues and not the imagined issues with this bill. This also gives the health insurance industry more momentum.. time and money to spread their filthy lies and propoganda.. thereby poisoning the minds of people who will not take hte time to do what I or even you have done.. and will believe the "buzz words" and lies they put out there.
perhaps THAT is what the Administration is trying to avoid. NOT hiding anything in the legislation.. but rather allowing time for the opposition to spread their lies. .. which they have been doing quite successfully already!
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