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Old 08-12-2009, 09:30 PM
 
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When Prudhoe Bay produced 20% of all the domestic oil in the US it is hardly irrelevant. But I have no doubt you will continue to believe this fiction like so many other fantasies that you regularly adhere. It further reinforces the stereotype of ignorant liberals.
When 20% doesn't make up for the aggregate decline it sure as hell isn't relevant.

If production on aggregate declines by 30% adding 20% still leaves a deficit of 10%.

I may be an ignorant liberal, but I know that 2+2 doesn't equal 5.

Now when you can come up with data disputing the EIA graph tracking the history of crude oil production that clearly reenforces the position that peak oil production peaked in the mid 70's post it. Until then leave the lame attempts at insults to someone who can add or read a graph.
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:54 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yes, for all models. Those aren't hybrids.

There will be an electric (not hybrid) pilot program in "late 2010", paving the way for a planned introduction of an electrical version in 2012.

So: No hybrid. None planned for the US market.

I wasn't talking about hybrids exclusively... I was talking about SMART cars period, whether they are hybrid or not.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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The "SMART" thing to do is not drive at all. Works for me, and I pay absolutely nothing for gas.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:08 AM
 
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Smart Car



Below is a photo of a wreck in Jefferson Parish, LA (near New Orleans ) between two trucks and a Smart Car.
Think I’ll pass on the Smart Car.
What's the point? You can drive whatever you want in this country!
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:25 AM
 
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I wasn't talking about hybrids exclusively... I was talking about SMART cars period, whether they are hybrid or not.
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One can conclude that hybrid cars, especially SMART cars, are more dangerous than their normal sized gas counterparts.
(my bolding)
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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(my bolding)

especially refers to the danger of SMART cars, not that they are hybrid.
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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What's the point? You can drive whatever you want in this country!

This is true up to a point. Have you noticed that every year that goes by there are smaller and smaller vehicles being made with less and less power?

Our entire selection is being modified for the worse in my opinion.
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:22 PM
 
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This is true up to a point. Have you noticed that every year that goes by there are smaller and smaller vehicles being made with less and less power?
No, I haven't noticed that. Every year, car companies seem to find ways at getting more horsepower per cubic inch.

Compacts seem the same size. Midsize seems the same. SUVs are still big. Two-ton pickups still have a two-ton payload rating.

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Our entire selection is being modified for the worse in my opinion.
I dunno. Though I miss the huge Caddillacs and the hot rods from the sixties, there is plenty to offer. If you can't find something you like, you're probably not looking hard enough.
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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No, I haven't noticed that. Every year, car companies seem to find ways at getting more horsepower per cubic inch.

Compacts seem the same size. Midsize seems the same. SUVs are still big. Two-ton pickups still have a two-ton payload rating.


I dunno. Though I miss the huge Caddillacs and the hot rods from the sixties, there is plenty to offer. If you can't find something you like, you're probably not looking hard enough.
Oh, I can still find stuff I like... just not in my price range anymore.
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: California
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This is true up to a point. Have you noticed that every year that goes by there are smaller and smaller vehicles being made with less and less power?

Our entire selection is being modified for the worse in my opinion.
I don't know how old you are but from where I sit automobiles have done nothing but get bigger and bigger. The fact that now some are being made smaller, and smarter is a direct result of that. Once we got a military vehicle being sold as personal transportation (Hummer) there was really nowhere else to go but down in size.
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