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What an utter disgrace this attitude is to the uniform you once wore.
You can't be rational when faced with someone who isn't rational?
Please tell me you're no longer "serving". I don't want people like you "fighting" for me.
Although I don't agree with everything the person said he does have a valid point.
Conventional warfare works in a conventional war...
Having also served and bled for my country I don't agree with torturing a uniformed soldier. Nor do I agree with applying the Geneva convention to non-uniformed soldiers.
Many can say that they would never use torture no matter what. They are either Liars or deluded.
If your child is kidnapped and you catch the perp before the police? What if the perp has made claims of putting your child in box buried with only so many hours of air?
I would feed that SOB through a sausage grinder to get my kids location.
make no mistake most people are quite capable of doing such things given the correct motivation.
The animals we are fighting have less difficulty with such deeds. The proof is in the fingers being cutoff voters in Afghanistan.
Using retarded children as suicide bombers.
Beheading defenceless prisoners with dull knives.
This is who we are fighting. Treating them with respect and dignity is a joke to them. Should we torture them? Not my call.
I would start by housing them 1 large pig per 6x6 cell.
Thank you. In my opinion, Democrats are way to soft on our security. There are times when you have to do what's necessary for your country's protection and freedom. Our military needs us behind them 100% and that's what the world should see.
Jesus, come ON. We're not living in the TV show "24" here.
Torture is not only wrong, but it is not RELIABLE. When somebody is waterboarding you or depriving you of sleep for a month, you'll say whatever is necessary to make it stop.
US military - yes they do torture. Abu Ghraib.
CIA - is that any more acceptable than if it were the military. they are a US govt agency. it is wrong.
WASHINGTON - FBI agents repeatedly warned military interrogators at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that their aggressive methods were legally risky and also likely to be ineffective, according to FBI memos made public Thursday
Former FBI agent Ali Soufan also indicated that the harsh interrogation techniques may actually have hindered the collection of intelligence, causing a high-value prisoner to stop cooperating.
I ask Mueller: So far as he is aware, have any attacks on America been disrupted thanks to intelligence obtained through what the administration still calls “enhanced techniques�
“I’m really reluctant to answer that,†Mueller says. He pauses, looks at an aide, and then says quietly, declining to elaborate: “I don’t believe that has been the case.â€
How do you know?
Would the police get results any better? If so how? By making them accept a public defender?
You made a statement now tell me how the police would succeed.
Oh a plea deal? Time off for giving up the location?
Lets see Someone is about to feed me feet first into a chipper shredder. Do I lie? Or hope that I might be spared if I confess the deed?
Conversly the cops. They will threaten to inject if the child dies. The perp knows very few death penalties are carried out. ( Unless you live in Texas or Florida). Pretty sure the perp would rather deal with the police than a chipper.
Just because it's not as radical as the other side uses doesn't make the torture right.
Torture comes in many flavours. All of them, no matter how harsh, is wrong in my opinion.
After World War II The Allies set up the Nuremberg Tribunals to establish just what was a WAR CRIME. Germans were hung for following orders, Japanese were hung for Waterboarding American Prisoners to find out information on imminent attacks. These rules were incorporated into the Nuremberg Doctrine. In 1951 the United States pushed the UN General Assembly into adopting those rules as International Law. That means that we are Treaty Bound to prosecute WAR CRIMINALS who violate the Nuremberg Doctrine.
After World War II The Allies set up the Nuremberg Tribunals to establish just what was a WAR CRIME. Germans were hung for following orders, Japanese were hung for Waterboarding American Prisoners to find out information on imminent attacks. These rules were incorporated into the Nuremberg Doctrine. In 1951 the United States pushed the UN General Assembly into adopting those rules as International Law. That means that we are Treaty Bound to prosecute WAR CRIMINALS who violate the Nuremberg Doctrine.
Oh, quit livin' in the past! Those definitions are so quaint.
I am so tired of hearing on the news about possible torture methods used by our military.
As far as I know, we have never beheaded anybody. Not just behead, but saw like a loaf of bread!
While we are at war, if they need to do things in order to extract information to prevent another 9/11, so what? A "mock execution"? Give me a break! We are not killing anybody. After what happened, a little humiliation and a little fear doesn't seem like much.
I'm beginning to wonder if when obama said "there would be transparency" if he really meant on what everybody else was doing.
When the news media reports on what the CIA or whatever department, is doing, our enemies also see everything, they don't need to know! I just don't think obama gets it. There are some things the world doesn't need to know.
OH lord what a bunch of pansie a$$es this country has become. I served for more than a decade and I can tell you that the enemy does FAR worse than we will ever do. Mock exectution, using guns and drills as props... let me know the next time we behead a couple media members and air it on the net to get our point across. Until then suck it up. I hate the previous adminsitration...with a passion but SOME of the stuff they authorized is about fighting fre with fire. One cannot be rational when dealing with an irrational apponent.
Let me know the next time Al Qaeda uses fighter jets or drones or Apache helicopters to shoot up YOUR neighborhood or accidentally kill YOUR family members at a roadside checkpoint or bomb YOUR wedding party. Do you think an "I'm sorry" is going to suffice to someone who's family is gone forever?
Maybe you need to live under a foreign occupier to gain a greater understanding. Or you could just move to North Korea for a while.
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