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Old 09-07-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Thanks to Bush and Cheney...you have the freedom to bash them.
Oh give me a break !
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Yeah, you tend to get alot of votes when you have a gun pointed to your head..that explaines how Saddam Huissein got 100% of the votes.
Saddam was inspired by people like Don (skeletor) Rumsfeld.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Oh give me a break !
If you were a Venezuelan, could you bash Chavez in kind without fear of repercussion?
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Saddam was inspired by people like Don (skeletor) Rumsfeld.
cite?
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Getting back OT:

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I think the movie, if you've seen it, shows very clearly the level of stupidity in the kind of broad statements that are made about Mr. Chavez," Stone told reporters in Venice, where South of the Border has its world premiere on Monday. "But I didn't want to make a movie only about the American media's attacks. I felt that that was too small for what this man is about. This man is a big phenomenon.
"So we travelled in a road trip kind of movie to visit these other presidents and we saw the positive side of what is going on, the sweeping change in this region. It's a very important historical phenomenon that is ... ignored in America."
It's more than ignored in America, Stone is being charitable with his words
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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For starters, see post #10 of this thread.
"Chavez moving to silence critics" makes him a dictator?

LMAO....

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Stone points the finger of blame at the International Monetary Fund, which he says imposed "neo-liberal," U.S.-led conditions in return for loans, and hails today's leaders for wresting back control of their resources.
Chavez, and other leaders including Bolivia's Evo Morales and Argentina's Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, criticise the fund, and voice support for greater regional cooperation.
For an incredibly detailed explanation of what this actually means, and how U.S. foreign policy has run roughshod over South America for decades (and how we supported the strangling of democracy there) read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine...7697236&sr=1-1
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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"Chavez moving to silence critics" makes him a dictator?

LMAO....
I doubt the people of Venezuela find "LMAO" an appropriate response to this iron fisted censorship:
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"The harassment (of journalists) is a permanent condition," Carlos Lauria, Americas program coordinator for the Committee to Protect Journalists, told CNN.

The shuttering of the radio and television stations and media crimes law are part of a larger strategy that Chavez has followed since he was briefly deposed in a coup in 2002, he said.

Chavez's goal can be described as a three-point strategy, Lauria said: to control the flow of information, stop critical reports and disseminate pro-government propaganda.

Much of the pro-government propaganda comes through Chavez's use of state-owned media outlets, critics say.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I doubt the people of Venezuela find "LMAO" an appropriate response to this iron fisted censorship:

But Bush did the same thing, he also used the media to exxagerate false claims that led to war, he also spied on Americans illegally by pressuring the media to turn over records (which it did) and by targeting opposition voices, often arresting them whenever and wherever they protested. Bush did all these things with, or against, the media
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Chavez is being tough on free speech. But for some on this thread since he is only abusing his citizens it is A OK!
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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I'd like to see Stone make a documentary critical of Chavez while residing in Venezuela.
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