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Just wait, we will have a host of wing nuts argue these bystanders shouldn't be punished. It's the same type of people who argue the hotel manager isn't racist for forcing his Hispanic employees to change their names.
those 2 issues are apples and bananas. Should the on lookers be arrested? i don't really know. We see too much of this. What about during riots, should all the on lookers be arrested? You would have the jails full in about 30 minutes and the charges would never stand up in court for a second. It is discusting when something like this happens? Of course it is.
BTW, the hotel manager is a racist, regardless of what he says, but that has nothing to do with this situation..
I agree. That is extreme HOWEVER, as someone who just graduated from high school three years ago, I know how some may feel retaliation.
It does happen. I am NOT saying it is excusable. It is not at all.
Why would they fear that? First of all, I don't think they would release your name if you asked them not too. Aslo, you can be sure they will spend some years behind bars ( at least I hope ).
I don't know if there is a crime that they can charge the bystanders with - but clearly what they did (nothing) was immoral and shows a complete lack of human empathy. In my opinion, the bystanders and the rapists are less then human scum. Their names and faces ought to be shown so that the potential employers/coworkers/neighbors can know that these are 'people' not to be trusted.
And yes, they are 'teens'. So what? This isn't burglary and this isn't a case of smoking weed in the parking lot. This is a case of callousness and there is no 'maturing' that away.
I share your view: that is what I was saying, I don't think there is any way to arrest these kids, it would never stand up in court.
those 2 issues are apples and bananas. Should the on lookers be arrested? i don't really know. We see too much of this. What about during riots, should all the on lookers be arrested? You would have the jails full in about 30 minutes and the charges would never stand up in court for a second. It is discusting when something like this happens? Of course it is.
BTW, the hotel manager is a racist, regardless of what he says, but that has nothing to do with this situation..
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Well, what kind of example is that? You're telling me the police would not know of a riot?
They are probably already there.... No nooed to call anybody.
going to prison & feeling guilty is way too good of a punishment for them. thats like a slap on the wrist compared to what i'd do to them INCLUDING the bystanders.
Why would they fear that? First of all, I don't think they would release your name if you asked them not too. Aslo, you can be sure they will spend some years behind bars ( at least I hope ).
well people have friends so I could see being a little afraid because it's doubtful that no one will ever find out who told. Plus the "no snitching" movement is big in high schools; it was around when I was in high school but they've taken it to a whole nother level
And you are not aware of the reality facing your constituency. Look at Swagger's post above. You were just proven wrong
Really? He defended the rapists, he condoned the actions of the bystanders? I don't see that.
And I don't disagree with this:
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Nobody should have any legal obligation to endanger their life or safety to help another.
However, There was no danger in calling the police or alerting on-site security. I don't necessarily fault them for not directly intervening, unless the rapists had guns I don't see why they couldn't have. In this case the observers became participants on some level.
well people have friends so I could see being a little afraid because it's doubtful that no one will ever find out who told. Plus the "no snitching" movement is big in high schools; it was around when I was in high school but they've taken it to a whole nother level
Exactly.
Kids are like rats. They somehow know everything. It is crazy.
LOL...see I told you, it was just a matter of time before one of them confirmed my belief. One of your people spoke!
First of all, I'm not one of "AeroguyDC's people" any more than you're one of "MovingForward's people."
Look, if there are laws on the books that these people were in violation of (and there very well could be), then lock 'em up! If they were breaking the law, prosecute them!
My point was simply that "good samaritan" laws have no place in a free society. The government using the force of law to require me to endanger my life or safety is not living in a free country, no matter how you try to spin it.
We can't let a single incident induce knee-jerk legislation, regardless of how horrible or revolting the incident is. We're a country of over 300 million people, and sometimes bad things - very bad things - happen. If we wrote a law every time they did, you wouldn't be able to pinch a loaf without permission from The State.
As for your statements, it's clear that you're not looking for any rational, intelligent discussion about the specific subject I mentioned. You just want to bash "conservatives". Ok. Whatever. If that's how you get your jollies, more power to you. Just don't expect people to take you too seriously when you want to actually discuss something in a reasonable fashion.
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