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Old 11-01-2009, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Increased spending on energy independance.

Not just a 8000 dollar tax credit for home buying, but paying a deposit for a new home if you qualify under certain guidelines.

Continue spending on space exploration, possible increase.

Push for lowering troop numbers in Afghanistan, with a eye on the future, lowering military spending after troop withdrawls.

Legalization and regulation of drugs, thus lowering costs for caging non-violent drug offenses, and decreasing the cost in the "war on drugs"
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1. Cut taxes to individuals and small buisness

2. Cut corportate taxes

3. Cap federal spending each eyar to 75% of the previous year collected revenue.


"Stimulus" has failed and it is time to move along.

PS- I am not sure that I want amatuer bridge builders out there. I have to cross a few.
In regards to 2, very few corporations pay the corporate tax. They have so many tax shelters and find so many loopholes within the tax code, it's pitiful.
If all companies paid their fair share of taxes, didn't try to exploit the loopholes and didn't have tax shelters then I would consider cutting corporate taxes.

3, are you serious?
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I'm all for tax credits for small businesses that create jobs.

I'm for lowering the age people qualify for Medicare to 55, this will get older workers off the rolls of their employer since many older people are only holding on their jobs because of health care benefits. This can free up many jobs.

Increase the amount of loans or grants (in some cases) to small businesses.

Heavily subsidize the education of primary care physicians


Any spending you would like to cut Chairman PurpleLove08 so we don't have to continue stealing from our children like a bunch of soulless crack addicts?
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:25 AM
 
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Other then criticizing your math which shows your $100K loan for your education to make $70K is a better investment than $0 loans with $45K income *i.e. a 25% return on your money), what does your education costs have to do with stimulating job growth?

4-5 years and the system gets the money back, 6 years and a profit, not hard to figure out. Makes health care cheaper so more people can spend money on other things and consume more since we're a consumer based economy. Think more than 2 feet/2 minutes in front of you .

The problem causing these bridges to be closed isnt the lack of individuals, its the lack of having enough tax revenues to pay the materials to have them repaired. Lets not even discuss that you just cant educate the unemployed to rebuild bridges/roads because that would result in 10% of the populating "rebuilding" stuff that there is no money to rebuild. Of course your posting ignores the cost of educating 10% of the population to become repair crew, and even if we magicly came up with the money to train all of these individuals and then repaired every road in america, this would result in higher unemployment numbers down the road as you unemploy all of the current individuals who have jobs repairing roads.

So lets sit around and do nothing and let corporate America continue to benefit off of only 15% dividends taxes and the top 1% have lower rates than the middle class. Again you'd rather sit and do nothing? Or do you think the free market is going to fix these problems?

And people wonder why those on the left get called socialist. Now we are going to begin to dictate to people what type of jobs they can have.
I never said anywhere that people would be forced to do anything. I think though you could give people an option for something productive to do where they can get some physical activity as well and make some money. It beats being a greeter at Wal Mart.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I agree we must cap spending, especially on the insane pet projects that make it into our bills. Cut taxes. It has worked and it will work again.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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I think Congress should do NOTHING......if we want job created, we should just let the free market ride out its present course. We have always come out of recessions better than we were before, this one will be no different. The government needs to leave our system alone!
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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What do you want Congress to do to stimulate job growth?

Resign
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Increased spending on energy independence creates jobs, because if we can keep half of what we spend on foreign oil (about 350 billion dollars a year), that can be used to balance our current budget, and begin to pay down the debt. It keeps more money at home, which creates spending at home, which creates jobs.

Helping citizens buy homes, lowers the number of houses on the market, spurring home ownership, and increasing the number of homes being built, which causes construction jobs to increase.

Space exploration would create more jobs in construction, and possibly (way out) bases on the moon.

Lowering military spending helps pay for some of the other items I put forward, and lowers the debt, making the dollar more valuable, increasing Americas buying power, creating more jobs.

Legalization of drugs would create jobs because it would bring the growth and production of drugs out of the closet. Tax revenue could be brought in, and it would save money, saving us from our debt.

Yeah, they'll create jobs, I did think it through.


Placing people in homes without a significant down-payment encourages them to walk away from their homes when the prices fall. What do you think just happened to the housing market? Why would you want to reinflate the same housing bubble?

Cutting the defense budget may seem like a good idea since all the world loves us now, but remember how we got where we are. Carter was a peacenik who refused to install a new west-friendly government in Iran back in 1979. We have fought five wars, including the two we are now fighting, because we didn't want to force our will on them. Now the the Iranians live in a terrorist Islamo-fascist theocracy that riggs elections, kills protesters, executes minors, stones women and hangs gays. They are developing a nuclear arsenal that our young men may face in a new war with Iran and that they will certainly threaten their neighbors with and possibly use against Israel or us. 9/11 was the direct result of inadequate funding of the CIA during the Clinton years that led to a 25% attrition rate at the CIA. We had little hard information on the same Al Qaeda that attacked the WTC in 1993 and no agents or operatives inside Afghanistan during the five years the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated from Afghanistan. We had so little information that the CIA would not even confirm that Al Qaeda was the organization responsible for the attack on the Cole in 2000. We had really put our heads in the sand and paid the price in 2001. Now in 2009, we are still paying the price. Your strategy seems penny wise and pound foolish.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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What do you want Congress to do to stimulate job growth?

Resign
Lol.

Not ALL of them.

I want Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich to stay.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Placing people in homes without a significant down-payment encourages them to walk away from their homes when the prices fall. What do you think just happened to the housing market? Why would you want to reinflate the same housing bubble?

Cutting the defense budget may seem like a good idea since all the world loves us now, but remember how we got where we are. Carter was a peacenik who refused to install a new west-friendly government in Iran back in 1979. We have fought five wars, including the two we are now fighting, because we didn't want to force our will on them. Now the the Iranians live in a terrorist Islamo-fascist theocracy that riggs elections, kills protesters, executes minors, stones women and hangs gays. They are developing a nuclear arsenal that our young men may face in a new war with Iran and that they will certainly threaten their neighbors with and possibly use against Israel or us. 9/11 was the direct result of inadequate funding of the CIA during the Clinton years that led to a 25% attrition rate at the CIA. We had little hard information on the same Al Qaeda that attacked the WTC in 1993 and no agents or operatives inside Afghanistan during the five years the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated from Afghanistan. We had so little information that the CIA would not even confirm that Al Qaeda was the organization responsible for the attack on the Cole in 2000. We had really put our heads in the sand and paid the price in 2001. Now in 2009, we are still paying the price. Your strategy seems penny wise and pound foolish.
Please,

Large military forces are no deturrent to Nuclear War. The fact is, the only way to ward off a nuclear attack is to have Nuclear weapons yourself.

We aren't going to face a nuclear war. Personally, I don't think we should have fought any of the last 3 wars we fought. We shouldn't have been so dependant on foreign oil that we had to step into the middle east to stabilze the region.

Listen real close to what I'm about to say, this is off topic but,

We will never be safe from a terrorist attack. In a free society, you must face that danger daily, period, end of discussion. It will never go away. 9/11 could have been prevented, if the CIA and FBI were working together, that happens now.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'm all for tax credits for small businesses that create jobs.

I'm for lowering the age people qualify for Medicare to 55, this will get older workers off the rolls of their employer since many older people are only holding on their jobs because of health care benefits. This can free up many jobs.

Increase the amount of loans or grants (in some cases) to small businesses.

Heavily subsidize the education of primary care physicians
obviously nothing: they have tried everything, and we are just getting deeper into the hole. It won't do any good to put our country further into debt.

You have mentioned the older worker before, are you aware of how many people in their late 70s are still working? No, dropping the age would do nothing. Yes, a few more might retire, but they would seek employment on a part time basis. Remember 75 isn't even old for many. Most people in their mid 50s are not anywhere ready to hang it all up. Where did you see stats that show many people are working just until they can go on medicare? Some, yes.

Heavily subsidize education for doctors, what will that do, other than put us further into debt? Do you think this is going to create a lot of jobs? Maybe a handful, but not enough to begin to help with the problems we have right now.

If there is one thing that would help, it is stop sending jobs over seas, but that is a little more complicated than most of us realize.

Nita
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