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Old 11-01-2009, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'm all for tax credits for small businesses that create jobs.

I'm for lowering the age people qualify for Medicare to 55, this will get older workers off the rolls of their employer since many older people are only holding on their jobs because of health care benefits. This can free up many jobs.

Increase the amount of loans or grants (in some cases) to small businesses.

Heavily subsidize the education of primary care physicians
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:26 AM
 
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I'm gonna be a P.A. in about a year and a half now. I plan on working primary care, but my student loans are gonna be huge (well over 100K), I'd work for a lot less if my student loans weren't breathing down my neck. I know a lot of my classmates would as well. Average P.A. salary is 70-75K I'd happily work for 45-50K if there was some tort reform and no student loans. Since that isn't the case, I'm going to look out for numero uno. National Health Service Corps does a program like you suggest, but I think its on far too small of a scale. Expand it and get PCPs out there because the benefits are just as good as the giant salary of ER or Cardiology or Dermatology.

We've got more than enough stuff falling apart in this country because people take it for granted. Put all the unemployed out there rebuilding bridges and roads that are in disrepair. I just heard about a bridge across Lake Champlain that is closed because its too old and starting to be structurally unsafe. I heard the same about the Bay bridge in San Francisco. We really don't have the people to do these projects? Or do we just think that because they were built once, they'll last forever?

I'm fine with leaving the retirement age where it is. Or even better, if people want to retire or do some part time work, let them work in the park systems and pay a small wage, like gardening on a grander scale (gardening is supposed to be healthy) and it benefits a lot more people. I always see volunteers at National Parks, but never at local parks.......
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'm gonna be a P.A. in about a year and a half now. I plan on working primary care, but my student loans are gonna be huge (well over 100K), I'd work for a lot less if my student loans weren't breathing down my neck. I know a lot of my classmates would as well. Average P.A. salary is 70-75K I'd happily work for 45-50K if there was some tort reform and no student loans. Since that isn't the case, I'm going to look out for numero uno. National Health Service Corps does a program like you suggest, but I think its on far too small of a scale. Expand it and get PCPs out there because the benefits are just as good as the giant salary of ER or Cardiology or Dermatology.

We've got more than enough stuff falling apart in this country because people take it for granted. Put all the unemployed out there rebuilding bridges and roads that are in disrepair. I just heard about a bridge across Lake Champlain that is closed because its too old and starting to be structurally unsafe. I heard the same about the Bay bridge in San Francisco. We really don't have the people to do these projects? Or do we just think that because they were built once, they'll last forever?

I'm fine with leaving the retirement age where it is. Or even better, if people want to retire or do some part time work, let them work in the park systems and pay a small wage, like gardening on a grander scale (gardening is supposed to be healthy) and it benefits a lot more people. I always see volunteers at National Parks, but never at local parks.......
Well just because one is on Medicare doesn't mean they have to retire. An employee could be on Medicare and that could save their employer some money because they wouldn't have to cover their health care costs.

I think your comment about bridges is great. I would like to see more projects that have to deal with mass transit.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:34 AM
 
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I'm all for tax credits for small businesses that create jobs.

I'm for lowering the age people qualify for Medicare to 55, this will get older workers off the rolls of their employer since many older people are only holding on their jobs because of health care benefits. This can free up many jobs.

Increase the amount of loans or grants (in some cases) to small businesses.

Heavily subsidize the education of primary care physicians
I have owned my small business for 10 years. Tax credits are nice. But if the ends don't justify the means, businesses will not be hiring anytime soon. Goods are not moving right now. So I think business would come out on the losing end by hiring because of a tax break.

Lowering the Medicare age would get some of the more expensive employees out of the group policy. That could be a cost saver for the employee too. The group gets a lower grade with "older" employees getting coverage.

Access to loans and grants would be huge. Businesses are begging for working capital to make it through the winter. Unfortunately, the banks are hoarding the money. I was talking with the owner of a business much larger than mine, and his bank has just closed his $500k line of credit.

I'll tell you what....if Christmas sales are bad this year, you will see more going out of business sales in the spring than you've ever seen in your life. It could be real bad.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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I'm gonna be a P.A. in about a year and a half now. I plan on working primary care, but my student loans are gonna be huge (well over 100K), I'd work for a lot less if my student loans weren't breathing down my neck. I know a lot of my classmates would as well. Average P.A. salary is 70-75K I'd happily work for 45-50K if there was some tort reform and no student loans. Since that isn't the case, I'm going to look out for numero uno. National Health Service Corps does a program like you suggest, but I think its on far too small of a scale. Expand it and get PCPs out there because the benefits are just as good as the giant salary of ER or Cardiology or Dermatology.
Other then criticizing your math which shows your $100K loan for your education to make $70K is a better investment than $0 loans with $45K income *i.e. a 25% return on your money), what does your education costs have to do with stimulating job growth?
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We've got more than enough stuff falling apart in this country because people take it for granted. Put all the unemployed out there rebuilding bridges and roads that are in disrepair. I just heard about a bridge across Lake Champlain that is closed because its too old and starting to be structurally unsafe. I heard the same about the Bay bridge in San Francisco. We really don't have the people to do these projects? Or do we just think that because they were built once, they'll last forever?
The problem causing these bridges to be closed isnt the lack of individuals, its the lack of having enough tax revenues to pay the materials to have them repaired. Lets not even discuss that you just cant educate the unemployed to rebuild bridges/roads because that would result in 10% of the populating "rebuilding" stuff that there is no money to rebuild. Of course your posting ignores the cost of educating 10% of the population to become repair crew, and even if we magicly came up with the money to train all of these individuals and then repaired every road in america, this would result in higher unemployment numbers down the road as you unemploy all of the current individuals who have jobs repairing roads.
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I'm fine with leaving the retirement age where it is. Or even better, if people want to retire or do some part time work, let them work in the park systems and pay a small wage, like gardening on a grander scale (gardening is supposed to be healthy) and it benefits a lot more people. I always see volunteers at National Parks, but never at local parks.......
And people wonder why those on the left get called socialist. Now we are going to begin to dictate to people what type of jobs they can have.

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Old 11-01-2009, 07:49 AM
 
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I'm all for tax credits for small businesses that create jobs.

I'm for lowering the age people qualify for Medicare to 55, this will get older workers off the rolls of their employer since many older people are only holding on their jobs because of health care benefits. This can free up many jobs.

Increase the amount of loans or grants (in some cases) to small businesses.

Heavily subsidize the education of primary care physicians

1. Cut taxes to individuals and small buisness

2. Cut corportate taxes

3. Cap federal spending each eyar to 75% of the previous year collected revenue.


"Stimulus" has failed and it is time to move along.

PS- I am not sure that I want amatuer bridge builders out there. I have to cross a few.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Increased spending on energy independance.

Not just a 8000 dollar tax credit for home buying, but paying a deposit for a new home if you qualify under certain guidelines.

Continue spending on space exploration, possible increase.

Push for lowering troop numbers in Afghanistan, with a eye on the future, lowering military spending after troop withdrawls.

Legalization and regulation of drugs, thus lowering costs for caging non-violent drug offenses, and decreasing the cost in the "war on drugs".
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:51 AM
 
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PS- I am not sure that I want amatuer bridge builders out there. I have to cross a few.
I have a home in Pittsburgh, they have LOTS of bridges closed because they dont have the money to fix them.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:52 AM
 
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Increased spending on energy independance.

Not just a 8000 dollar tax credit for home buying, but paying a deposit for a new home if you qualify under certain guidelines.

Continue spending on space exploration, possible increase.

Push for lowering troop numbers in Afghanistan, with a eye on the future, lowering military spending after troop withdrawls.

Legalization and regulation of drugs, thus lowering costs for caging non-violent drug offenses, and decreasing the cost in the "war on drugs".
None of these stimulate job growth, in fact some of them are counter job growth...

Are you sure you read the title of the thead before responding?
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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None of these stimulate job growth, in fact some of them are counter job growth...

Are you sure you read the title of the thead before responding?

Increased spending on energy independance creates jobs, because if we can keep half of what we spend on foreign oil (about 350 billion dollars a year), that can be used to balance our current budget, and begin to pay down the debt. It keeps more money at home, which creates spending at home, which creates jobs.

Helping citizens buy homes, lowers the number of houses on the market, spurring home ownership, and increasing the number of homes being built, which causes construction jobs to increase.

Space exploration would create more jobs in construction, and possibly (way out) bases on the moon.

Lowering military spending helps pay for some of the other items I put forward, and lowers the debt, making the dollar more valueable, increasing Americas buying power, creating more jobs.

Legalization of drugs would create jobs because it would bring the growth and production of drugs out of the closet. Tax revenue could be brought in, and it would save money, saving us from our debt.

Yeah, they'll create jobs, I did think it through.
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