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What about all the Muslim CONVERTS in our prisons.
You should be more concerned about them than the Christians.
I don't know one single tenet of Christian theology that would influence a Christian to murder a Jew or Muslim. Can't say the same thing about Islam.
Exactly because if a Christian really follows Jesus, he does not believe much in killing, Jesus did not rule by any sword, Jesus didn't kill infidels or say to kill them. Convert them yes, spread the Good News of salvation -- yes but nothing about killing. Mohammed did kill, he personally killed many people -- he came right out and said that infidels should be killed.
I highly doubt that. Most people in prison are not religious at all, most were not going to church on a regular basis or reading the Bible much at all. You can bet most in prison are quite anti-Christian in all their beliefs.
Response %
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Catholic 39.164%
Protestant 35.008%
Muslim 7.273%
American Indian 3.222%
Nation 2.320%
Rasta 1.987%
Jewish 1.773%
Church of Christ 1.744%
Pentecostal 1.463%
Moorish 1.426%
Buddhist 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 0.890%
Adventist 0.831%
Orthodox 0.502%
Mormon 0.399%
Scientology 0.254%
Atheist 0.209%
Hindu 0.159%
Santeria 0.157%
Sikh 0.019%
Bahai 0.012%
Krishna 0.009%
The most crime-ridden neighborhoods in New Orleans are also the most religious ones. Go to Compton or South Central on a Sunday and EVERYONE is in church, even the gang-bangers. Most gang-bangers are still Momma's boys, and Momma makes sure her boys go to Church.
Most WHITE inmates are Christian as well. As are the Hispanic inmates.
Deny FACTS all you want, you're still the delusional one who is blind to them.
Get a life people. Try worring about those that survived and the families, your critic of the President is nothing more than your hate overpowering your brain, and you prove it by posting threads such as this for all to read. You guys just keep whining away over nothing, as usual, pitiful.
Casper
Can we PLEASE get over this "but they did it, so now it's payback time" attitude already??
It wasn't "right" when people did it to Bush, it's not "right" when people do it to Obama. (In case you're wondering, I disagreed with many of Bush's policies but had respect for the fact that he held the office of POTUS).
All the finger-pointing over every silly thing (he didn't say something fast enough, he didn't use the right tone, he didn't say what I would have said) just take away from people's valid dissent about the bigger issues facing our country.
You want to protest Obama's policies? Go for it, it is your right.
Nit-picking everything that does or doesn't come out of his mouth? Give me a break.
The events at Ft. Hood were a tragedy. Why don't we spend some time worrying about the victims and their loved ones and supporting the law enforcement authorities in bringing the murderer to justice?
I suppose when it's a president in office like Bush, people look to the president for leadership and direction but this is obviously not to be expected now.
I suppose when it's a president in office like Bush, people look to the president for leadership and direction but this is obviously not to be expected now.
I think people do look to the office of POTUS for leadership in a situation like this. That you don't expect it now is your opinion which you are entitled to. There are those who disagree with your opinion. But you didn't address the rest of my post.
Explain the Inquisition.
Explain the Salem Witch Trials.
Explain the IRA.
Explain the Crusades.
Explain the Holy Roman Empire that used religion as a way to spread military conquest.
Explain the Conquistadors.
Explain the KKK (which uses Christian scripture).
Sorry, Christianity has as much blood on its hands as Islam.
Anyone who follows a religion religiously is dangerous and usually not sane.
Secular people who follow religious traditions are okay, but the people who think that "God guides and protects me" are scary and dangerous. I am just as frightened by the Westboro Baptist Church (or "The Rock" in San Diego) where they promote hate and bigotry as I am by Arabs.
I've actually seen Arab terrorism first hand. I was in a market in Tel Aviv when it was bombed in 1997, I was cut by flying rock (not very badly, but still...), I saw people dying with my own two eyes.
But I've also been to London and seen what they did in response to CHRISTIAN terrorism that plagued them to the point where they've become the most surveiled society in the world.
Every example you give is the use of Christianity or religous differences by people in power to acheive other objectives:
Explain the Salem Witch Trials. - Using the authourites to take out rivals
Explain the IRA. - Religon as a proxy for a political independence movement
Explain the Crusades. - War for $$
Explain the Holy Roman Empire that used religion as a way to spread military conquest. - War for $$
Explain the Conquistadors. - War for Money
Explain the KKK (which uses Christian scripture). - religon used to justify oppression to maintain political power
Also most of these examples are over 500 years old. Muslims are killing people for their faith NOW. TODAY. Not in the past.
So unless you have an irrational fear that you are going to bump into one of the knights of the crusade in a dark alley who will run you through with his broadswaord, I'd say the average westerner has alot more to fear from the current adherents of Islam then Christianity.
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