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How do you think insurance companies determine what to cover at what interval?
Once again, the recommendations aren't blanket recommendations. They don't prohibit more frequent tests, if the doctor and patient think more frequent tests are necessary. The recommendations apply to healthy women who fall into the low-risk categories. Are you saying that insurance companies will also be overruling doctors on who they determine is at risk? Based on what? Because NOTHING in these recommendations give that kind of power to insurance companies.
Once again, the recommendations aren't blanket recommendations. They don't prohibit more frequent tests, if the doctor and patient think more frequent tests are necessary. The recommendations apply to healthy women who fall into the low-risk categories. Are you saying that insurance companies will also be overruling doctors on who they determine is at risk? Based on what? Because NOTHING in these recommendations give that kind of power to insurance companies.
What do you "power to the insurance companies"... they already have the power to write policies as they see fit.
We are talking about preventative care. Once a doctor makes a recommendation that testing be performed, it is no longer preventative and is now a recommended procedure. Preventative care is initiated by the patient, the insured.
For instance, it is common knowledge that a preventative care check up should be perfored once annually. In part, because of these recommendations from physicians, most insurance companies will cover the cost of one preventative care visit per year. This is included in the policy because this is the recommendation made by physicians.
Now, if physicians said "we can push that back to once every 2 years"... you think insurance companies are going to go "we will still be nice, and let you go every year, even though your doctor says it isn't necessary". Absolutely not.
Now, if that same person gets sick and sees the doctor, that is also covered... but it isn't preventative care. You are using this type of situation as reason to believe that preventative care will not be affected.
What do you "power to the insurance companies"... they already have the power to write policies as they see fit.
We are talking about preventative care. Once a doctor makes a recommendation that testing be performed, it is no longer preventative and is now a recommended procedure. Preventative care is initiated by the patient, the insured.
For instance, it is common knowledge that a preventative care check up should be perfored once annually. In part, because of these recommendations from physicians, most insurance companies will cover the cost of one preventative care visit per year. This is included in the policy because this is the recommendation made by physicians.
Now, if physicians said "we can push that back to once every 2 years"... you think insurance companies are going to go "we will still be nice, and let you go every year, even though your doctor says it isn't necessary". Absolutely not.
Now, if that same person gets sick and sees the doctor, that is also covered... but it isn't preventative care. You are using this type of situation as reason to believe that preventative care will not be affected.
Oh, please, it goes beyond being merely preventative when your doctor says your health risks merit greater monitoring.
Hardly! Go figure a man to try to support that testing, be it mammograms or Pap smears, has not saved thousands of women's lives every year by helping physicians discover these cancers before symptoms become evident. With breast and cervical cancers, once symptoms become evident, the likelyhood of successful treatment and long-term survival have significantly decreased.
The OBGYN care that women receive in the U.S. is significantly more timely and more comprehensive than that received in countries with socialized medicine.
Get mad women, really mad! Fight back! Flood your representatives phone lines. This is just a small glimps of the forced healthcare rationing to come if Government gets its way.
They have to cut back. There is no way they can afford this and take on millions of people and have the taxpayer subsidize this. They have to cut back on preventative care.
There are not enough doctors, nurses and hospitals to take on these millions of newly insured.
Hardly! Go figure a man to try to support that testing, be it mammograms or Pap smears, has not saved thousands of women's lives every year by helping physicians discover these cancers before symptoms become evident. With breast and cervical cancers, once symptoms become evident, the likelyhood of successful treatment and long-term survival have significantly decreased.
I am not arguing that many women haven't been saved, however, it is just plain wrong to ignore the risks inherent in many of these tests. Why is it always acceptable to tell women what to do with their bodies, but not what not to do with them???? I'm sorry, but, I can just as easily see a conspiracy behind the recommendations for constant testing. Just one more indication that someone wants to control our bodies.
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The OBGYN care that women receive in the U.S. is significantly more timely and more comprehensive than that received in countries with socialized medicine.
Right. That's why the U.S. infant mortality rate is so much worse than it is in those countries.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
Get mad women, really mad! Fight back! Flood your representatives phone lines. This is just a small glimps of the forced healthcare rationing to come if Government gets its way.
No, it isn't.
Last edited by TigerLily24; 11-20-2009 at 10:55 AM..
Hardly! Go figure a man to try to support that testing, be it mammograms or Pap smears, has not saved thousands of women's lives every year by helping physicians discover these cancers before symptoms become evident. With breast and cervical cancers, once symptoms become evident, the likelyhood of successful treatment and long-term survival have significantly decreased.
The OBGYN care that women receive in the U.S. is significantly more timely and more comprehensive than that received in countries with socialized medicine.
Get mad women, really mad! Fight back! Flood your representatives phone lines. This is just a small glimps of the forced healthcare rationing to come if Government gets its way.
Why don't you read the studies and the statistics that the doctors based their recommendations on? Mammograms and pap smears have indeed been key in the saving of thousands of lives. But they also inadvertently have bad effects as well. The studies aren't doing away with mammograms and pap smears, they are modifying the frequency and how early they should become part of a woman's regular healthcare regime. The recommendations can support themselves based on the science.
Oh, please, it goes beyond being merely preventative when your doctor says your health risks merit greater monitoring.
Then one simple question.
Why do these groups issue recommendations in the first place?
Being that it is a case by case basis, even for preventative care, as you say. Further, that the insurance companies pay no attention to these recommendations when writing policies.
Why would they issue a recommendation in the first place?
They have to cut back. There is no way they can afford this and take on millions of people and have the taxpayer subsidize this. They have to cut back on preventative care.
There are not enough doctors, nurses and hospitals to take on these millions of newly insured.
Exactly.
And since my own private, affordable, insurance will be sacrificed by these recommendations.... Im not a happy camper.
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