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Do you know many/any people who don't pay income tax? The only person I know who didn't pay income tax last year is my daughter, who was living entirely on student loans.
There is a huge difference between people who pay no income tax and those who get a refund. These numbers are getting twisted by those who want us to believe that half our friends and neighbors are paying no tax.
I don't pay any tax and I don't expect to for at least a few more years. I suspect there are many others like myself that have chosen to slow their lifestyle down a notch and benefit by not paying any taxes. If you have enough writeoffs and don't make a huge amount of money you pay nothing, even with $$$ in the bank. My employer stopped taking taxes out after a mid year bonus because of the rate it was tax at pretty much covered the remainder of the year. I will still get back every penny paid in too.
I don't pay any tax and I don't expect to for at least a few more years. I suspect there are many others like myself that have chosen to slow their lifestyle down a notch and benefit by not paying any taxes. If you have enough writeoffs and don't make a huge amount of money you pay nothing, even with $$$ in the bank. My employer stopped taking taxes out after a mid year bonus because of the rate it was tax at pretty much covered the remainder of the year. I will still get back every penny paid in too.
You can include me in that "many others".
I decided to "go Galt".
Powering down now..should take another year or two for it to be complete.
I don't pay any tax and I don't expect to for at least a few more years. I suspect there are many others like myself that have chosen to slow their lifestyle down a notch and benefit by not paying any taxes. If you have enough writeoffs and don't make a huge amount of money you pay nothing, even with $$$ in the bank. My employer stopped taking taxes out after a mid year bonus because of the rate it was tax at pretty much covered the remainder of the year. I will still get back every penny paid in too.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
You can include me in that "many others".
I decided to "go Galt".
Powering down now..should take another year or two for it to be complete.
So all you people are bragging about not paying income tax, yet complain about people who don't pay income tax?
I don't understand how people can DISTRUST new guidelines when they are being made by the same groups who made the old guidelines. It's like some folks want to freeze time and everything in it to whatever standards are in place RIGHT NOW without acknowledging that what we currently have hasn't always been this way and isn't always going to be the right thing. I think people are just afraid of change and some will fight it no matter what just because they can't see beyond their fears.
I don't understand how people can DISTRUST new guidelines when they are being made by the same groups who made the old guidelines. It's like some folks want to freeze time and everything in it to whatever standards are in place RIGHT NOW without acknowledging that what we currently have hasn't always been this way and isn't always going to be the right thing. I think people are just afraid of change and some will fight it no matter what just because they can't see beyond their fears.
If change means the way Europes health care is going down the drain with cuts, cuts and more cuts because the system is too expensive...that doesn't mean people are scared for anything new.
I have experienced it and the only good thing for some people is that every one is ins...which on the other hand makes people lazy because they already have unemployment or welfare and health ins. so why would they even try to get a job which maybe will pay them $ 2.- more per hour while they already have health care and money to pay for rent and food and don't have to anything and can sleep as long as they want every day!
The people who do work have seen all their health care benefits been cut and have to hope that their primary physician will send them to a specialist, otherwise too bad your out of luck snce the government with their guielines decide what care you can or can't get....and it is less every couple of yeas since more people get older so less people work and pay into it, so less money to pay for it!
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I hate to say it but I told you all that is how it started in Europe and before you know it more and more cut's will come in the form of advise that we all the time were checked to often...Next colon screenings and your doctor will tell you not to come to the doctor if you haven't gotten a fever for 5 days...
Do I have a magic bol or can I forsee the future? hell no just simple telling you what socialist health care is about without lying as Obama is doing!
So?
To what do you attribute changes in medical recommendations for testing/treatment over the many years when nothing about healthcare reform was on the table?
I don't understand how people can DISTRUST new guidelines when they are being made by the same groups who made the old guidelines. It's like some folks want to freeze time and everything in it to whatever standards are in place RIGHT NOW without acknowledging that what we currently have hasn't always been this way and isn't always going to be the right thing. I think people are just afraid of change and some will fight it no matter what just because they can't see beyond their fears.
I agree. When the recommendation is for more,more,more we, the ultimate consumers are all over it, however, when it turns out that less is more (better), we don't want to hear it.
Here is a link to an excellent piece by an actual physician. I happen to agree with his statements about our current secretary of health.
"Yet it's hard to stop something your doctor told you to do 30 years ago. It's also hard to stop telling patients something you learned in medical school 20 years ago. All of these recommendations represented our best advice at the time. Fortunately, we continue to learn and grow, and so must our advice."
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