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Old 11-29-2009, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Washington
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Originally Posted by lucky_double_d View Post
I really hope you're not suggesting that just because there are a few bad apples in the bunch, that it gives these sickos the right and "need" to just open fire and ambush cops.

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Of course not! Im only saying that in certainly communities, police are not seen as 'protectors' but more as 'harassers' and 'enforcers'. I work with impoverished peoples and come across discussions of police often.


Any person who tries to kill or attack another person needs to be apprehended. However, there is growing tension between police and individuals in certain communities. Perhaps if that is addressed, then community members will be more comfortable going to police and giving information.


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Originally Posted by burntbee
What you said makes me sick. You're practically condoning the shooter's actions. Four innocent police officers, sitting in a diner are MURDERED and you it was NEEDED?Moderator cut: PERSONAL ATTACK These men and women go out there day AND NIGHT to protect you! They go TOWARDS the fight and hail of bullets as YOU run away from it. Ughh....
That is sthe stupidest thing Ive ever heard. WHERE am I condoning this vile act?

Simply because I recognize that in certain communities police are not viewed in such favorable eyes does NOT mean I condone attacking them. If you are homeless, poor, brown, black or mentally handicapped, chances are you arent thinking that youre 'being protected' by police in most of your encounters with them. I am an educated, law abiding citizen whos only law breaking at best has been 'jay walking' or speeding, yet because my skin is brown I have been harassed countless times (back in my home state) by officers who are of the mind that if you are brown, you must be doing something wrong. Often, if you do not fit into a 'specific category', the police may not see themselves as 'protecting you', they are 'protecting others from you'.

Of course not all or even most cops do this, but enough do to where trust within the community becomes an issue.

Moderator cut: not necessary

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Old 11-29-2009, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Of course not! Im only saying that in certainly communities, police are not seen as 'protectors' but more as 'harassers' and 'enforcers'. I work with impoverished peoples and come across discussions of police often.


Any person who tries to kill or attack another person needs to be apprehended. However, there is growing tension between police and individuals in certain communities. Perhaps if that is addressed, then community members will be more comfortable going to police and giving information.




That is sthe stupidest thing Ive ever heard. WHERE am I condoning this vile act?

Simply because I recognize that in certain communities police are not viewed in such favorable eyes does NOT mean I condone attacking them. If you are homeless, poor, brown, black or mentally handicapped, chances are you arent thinking that youre 'being protected' by police in most of your encounters with them. I am an educated, law abiding citizen whos only law breaking at best has been 'jay walking' or speeding, yet because my skin is brown I have been harassed countless times (back in my home state) by officers who are of the mind that if you are brown, you must be doing something wrong. Often, if you do not fit into a 'specific category', the police may not see themselves as 'protecting you', they are 'protecting others from you'.

Of course not all or even most cops do this, but enough do to where trust within the community becomes an issue.

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So wait, if you're homeless, poor, brown, black or mentally handicapped, the police don't like you? This is COMEDY GOLD . Now you're claiming you've been harassed for being brown?

Now wait, who are people like me? White middle class people who are law-abiding and respect the police and as a result, don't have issues? Yep, we're the root cause of police mis-trust. Moderator cut: RUDE

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Old 11-29-2009, 11:05 PM
 
Location: southern california
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not one shot fired. which makes me think it was "an aquaintance".
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Not only did he have a criminal record in Arkansas, the old governor Huckabee pardoned him or he would still be there. if this isn't becoming political with this report think about who will not be running for President in 2012 whether he said he wouldn't or not. He is out of it that year as our memories aren't very long but too long for that one.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Washington
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So wait, if you're homeless, poor, brown, black or mentally handicapped, the police don't like you? This is COMEDY GOLD . Now you're claiming you've been harassed for being brown?

Moderator cut: not necessary
Try having a discussion as an ADULT and maybe youll get a better response. Your digital-crying/whining about my statement only goes further to disprove your ideal.
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Now wait, who are people like me? White middle class people who are law-abiding and respect the police and as a result, don't have issues? Yep, we're the root cause of police mis-trust. Moderator cut: RUDE
Nice, way to keep up the bigotry. No wonder you came to such a stupid conclusion when I commented. Moderator cut: don't engage in a flame war please - report offensive posts instead

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Old 11-29-2009, 11:54 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Obviously,no bystander was carrying a gun...

One more proof that the need for concealed carry is a matter of life & death...

Dead on right.

If someone had been armed the killer would have been the one in cold storage.

We need to clear the streets of scumbags like this one way or another.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:13 AM
 
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Dead on right.

If someone had been armed the killer would have been the one in cold storage.

We need to clear the streets of scumbags like this one way or another.
Yep......with cowboys, horses, six-shooters and whiskey shots.

OK....forget the cowboys and horses.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:18 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Yep......with cowboys, horses, six-shooters and whiskey shots.

OK....forget the cowboys and horses.
with 1 difference. 50 years ago, the bad boys did not walk away laughing, they were carried out, not the cops.
and the owner would have finished the job with a 12 gauge.

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Old 11-30-2009, 12:21 AM
 
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I'm not sure anyone in the coffee shop could have fired at the suspect without exposing the attacked officers to crossfire, though.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:27 AM
 
Location: southern california
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I'm not sure anyone in the coffee shop could have fired at the suspect without exposing the attacked officers to crossfire, though.
50 years ago we did not sweat crossfire. but lots of dead bad guys.
no more laughing boy

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