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View Poll Results: Should atheists be banned from holding public office?
Yes 5 7.46%
No 61 91.04%
Not sure 1 1.49%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-16-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It really is too bad, because I like the South. I just hate how things like this overshadow the more rational and open-minded folks who live there.
And I agree, but I think you can find this in many places, the southerners are just more open. This doesn't make it right, but it does make it true..

Nita
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:40 PM
 
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According to a national survey done earlier this year by Trinity College, "No Religion" is the only religious demographic that is growing in every single state...
That's pleasant news. Can you provide a source?
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Why does it overshadow the rational and open-minded people who live in the South? It's just an outdated law. How does it reflect on the region as a whole? There are numerous outdated laws on the books in every state. If adultery is still illegal in New Hampshire, does that overshadow the more rational and open-minded residents of New Hampshire? If it was legal to beat your wife in New Jersey until the 1980's, did that overshadow the state's more progressive and equality-minded residents? Why is it that laws on the books in the South cast bigger shadows than laws on the books in the North?
and it was illegal to sell birth control in NH until the 60s or early 70s. Like you say, these outdated laws can be found almost everywhere, but rarely are they enforced..

Nita
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:43 PM
 
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I already did.
No, you told me it was okay to make aspersions on a region because you think it's okay.

Adultery is a Class 1 felony in Wisconsin. In Michigan it's a felony that you can be imprisoned for life for committing. Now I like the upper Midwest. Isn't it a shame that laws like these overshadow the more progressive and liberal elements in the upper Midwest. Will they never change these laws and join the rest of us in the 21st century?

Do you see that remarks like this rely on underlying assumptions that are negative and derogatory in nature?
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:46 PM
 
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But yes, I would rather have a Christian in office than an atheist.

More for political reasons than religious ones.

And I think you know what I mean by that.
Not really, but like justcause, I assume you'd prefer a Christian in office for the "gay" issue.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:51 PM
 
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Not really, but like justcause, I assume you'd prefer a Christian in office for the "gay" issue.
No, the gay issue is one of the last things on my mind.

An atheist is more likely to be liberal politically in general.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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No, you told me it was okay to make aspersions on a region because you think it's okay.

Adultery is a Class 1 felony in Wisconsin. In Michigan it's a felony that you can be imprisoned for life for committing. Now I like the upper Midwest. Isn't it a shame that laws like these overshadow the more progressive and liberal elements in the upper Midwest. Will they never change these laws and join the rest of us in the 21st century?

Do you see that remarks like this rely on underlying assumptions that are negative and derogatory in nature?
The law specifically in question was aimed at discrediting an atheist by his opponents, using customarily Christian rhetoric and a law that was aimed at favoring theists. As AUM pointed out in post #5, similar laws are on the books in several other Southern states.

The South does not, and, to my knowledge, never has had a history of being progressive or disengaged from a strong religious bent. So, yes, I am relying on underlying assumptions which are pretty obvious and collectively acknowledged by most as being accurate. But, just because they are perceived by you as being negative and derogatory in nature does not in any way make them untrue, nor does pointing to other regions and their respective laws undercut what traditionally the South has endorsed, and what is currently being manifested in the North Carolina case.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:57 PM
 
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No, the gay issue is one of the last things on my mind.

An atheist is more likely to be liberal politically in general.
Ah, okay, thanks for the clarification. It's easy for me (and a lot of gays) to become paranoid about the gay issue since about half the country says it's immoral.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Not really, but like justcause, I assume you'd prefer a Christian in office for the "gay" issue.


Thats what i'm comming away with too.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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So we have two anti American values people on this board. Freedom OF religion.

I figured. The two users are suspect to anti Americanism as it is.
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