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Old 04-24-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe View Post
The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens


Vattel
that's the english translation published 10 years after the ratification of the constitution. before that there was no version with a direct translation of the phrase " natural born citizen ".

 
Old 04-24-2010, 03:59 PM
 
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Only in the minds of the irrational.
No. The IRrational 'believe.'
The rational examine evidence, contradictory and otherwise. Obama has too many contradictions, and not enough verifiable evidence. Especially given Hawaii's (and other states') practice of recording birth certificates based on anyone's unverified say-so information. The federal government concurs:
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Misconceptions include the following:
- a birth certificate insures the identity and citizenship of the person holding it
http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf (broken link)
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:02 PM
 
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none of that is contradictory information.

we know he lived in hawaii on a couple different occaisions and we know he lived seattle shortly after his birth. during the times he was in hawaii he lived at six different addresses. where is the contradiction ?
The Hawaiian newspaper article states Obama lived in Hawaii except for the years of 1967-1971 when he was in Indonesia. The Seattle newspaper states Obama lived in Seattle with his mother from 1961-1962. Contradiction.
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:28 PM
 
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Birther scoreboard:

68 times - DISMISSED, DENIED OR REJECTED. (A few even with SANCTIONS.)


http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_yo...ASE%20LIST.pdf
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:48 PM
 
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Birther scoreboard:

68 times - DISMISSED, DENIED OR REJECTED. (A few even with SANCTIONS.)

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_yo...ASE%20LIST.pdf
Meaningless. It is far more meaningful that the POTUS will not release his original birth certificate.
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:50 PM
 
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In El Paso we cholo girls would scream Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! when discussing Obama. Don't forget to roll those r's.
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:51 PM
 
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Albert Einstein's definition of insanity - "Doing the same thing over and over
again and expecting different results." Sounds like the perfect definition of
birther doesn't it folks...
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:52 PM
 
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Albert Einstein's definition of insanity - "Doing the same thing over and over
again and expecting different results." Sounds like the perfect definition of
birther doesn't it folks...
Pommysmommy definition of a rude, personal attacking, non-suspended poster=meson.
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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Pommysmommy definition of a rude, personal attacking, non-suspended poster=meson.
Not personal at all, there's 67,000 birthers...

Edit: oops made a mistake there, that's 67,000 teaNaggers, probably
less birthers than that.

Last edited by meson; 04-24-2010 at 05:03 PM..
 
Old 04-24-2010, 04:59 PM
 
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I have snapshots of everything you posted last night meson.
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