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Old 02-12-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: North America
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An enormous movement by well funded lefties throwing mud (you can see the type here) has been unable to find anything amiss with her running the state.

except for the fact she left before her term was over.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:44 PM
 
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An enormous movement by well funded lefties throwing mud (you can see the type here) has been unable to find anything amiss with her running the state.
There were many things that Palin screwed up while in office in Alasksa. I'd provide links, but you would chalk it up to just mud throwing and not factual. If anyone is well funded for slinging mud, it's the queen of hypocrisy, Palin.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Problem with reading comprehension? Or perhaps you didn't read the WHOLE article.

Try again...read the whole thing. You might actually get it then.

I especially liked the "marketing in an era when image almost always passes for substance". Wonder who that was aimed at?
Probably Sarah.

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There will be time for policy proposals. But that time is not now. What Palin is doing is articulating the principles that must be the basis for concrete policy proposals.
Policy isn't important? This coming from the people that refer to Obama's "socialist agenda"? Sarah seems to have no agenda.


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Does one vote for the elitist Ivy league grad . . .
Are you referring to GW Bush?

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I've always respected Palin's political shrewdness. But I would never give my support to a candidate unless I had some solid information on what she's bringing to the table. So for, Palin's been great at attacking Obama, but not so great at telling us about Palin.
This is what my very conservative friend said in October of 08. She never got beyond the sarcasm.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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There were many things that Palin screwed up while in office in Alasksa. I'd provide links, but you would chalk it up to just mud throwing and not factual. If anyone is well funded for slinging mud, it's the queen of hypocrisy, Palin.
Not one of the frivolous ethics complaints against her have proven true.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Sanrene, you're admiring a woman who you say has leadership qualities, yet QUIT her elected office in Alaska 17 months into her first term (not even halfway through, mind you) for a better offer. Her declarations that the lower 48 needed her rings falsely, given the fact of the book deal, the fox News post and the money she's paid for her speeches.

In other words, she left for a better offer.

Leader??? I think not.
Incorrect. She stated her reasons, one of which was harassment from the Left, costing the taxpayers time and money.

I prefer to believe her reasons than the contorted, distorted views of the Left.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:33 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Incorrect. She stated her reasons, one of which was harassment from the Left, costing the taxpayers time and money.

I prefer to believe her reasons than the contorted, distorted views of the Left.
Right, you prefer to believe lies, which conform to your world view, versus the truth,for which there is actual evidence.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Right, you prefer to believe lies, which conform to your world view, versus the truth,for which there is actual evidence.
The proof is in the pudding - the FACT that dozens of frivolous ethics complaints were filed.

The Left was all about making it as difficult as possible for her to do her job - that's just another fact.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:35 PM
 
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Keep in mind what made this country great is many who weren't followers.

The average joe going to work at the factory to provide for his family; the average entrepreneur stepping out to fulfill a dream -- nothing remotely "elitist." Not the banker getting large bonus payments because he successfully lobbied the Obama admin for a bailout and to increase joe's debt.

But then there is little average about governing -- and immensely successful governing, of a state as large and diverse as Alaska. And frankly, with a couple exceptions, I haven't seen anything "well above average" from Obama.
Alaska is physically large. Its population is some fraction the size of Chicago.

I have to disagree with your assumption that Sarah Palin represents "the average American" or "the average Joe." She certainly doesnt represent "the middle class." She may represent a certain kind of American, described in the Time article, but there are thousands of economic and educational levels in the US, and to judge from the poll numbers she's been pulling she is not wanted or valued by the huge majority of those groups.

Why on earth would anyone want to vote for someone who -- cynically and on purpose, according to you and the OP -- delivers "inspired drivel"?
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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There will be time for policy proposals. But that time is not now. What Palin is doing is articulating the principles that must be the basis for concrete policy proposals. Policy wonks like Bill Clinton and Obama are enamored with policy--the more detailed the better. People like Reagan and Palin are about articulating and defining principles that guide policy choices. Her principles are bedrock American. That why she resonates with people.

First and foremost is a belief in God, the author of all that is good about America. Belief in God keeps politicians humble, a virtue sorely lacking among current politicians. Example: thinking that mankind can control climate. Sheer hubris! Then she builds on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution (documents that liberals pay lipservice to but nothing else). Then there is her belief and trust in the people, without which democracy is a sham. From that flows the principle that the people, not government, are sovereign and that government must be accountable to the people (putting government back on the side of the people is how Palin puts it). She believes in essential equality before the law. Wealth and position create responsibility, not privilege. She believes in free markets and free enterprise and is against crony captialism wherein the treaury is looted for the benefit of the few and the well-placed. She believes in American exceptionalism--that America is unique among nations in the freedom and opportunity it offers citizen and immigrant (legal) alike. She recognizes that there is evil in the world and that America is a force for good. She knows that if America yields its sovereign to multinational organizations or retreats from engagement in the world a vacuum will be created that likely will be filled with nations and powers inimical to the peace and good order of the world community.

It's been a generation since Reagan reminded us of these principles and, in doing so, restored our self confidence as a nation. That is what is lacking today and that is what Palin represents. She applied some of these principles on the small stage of Alaska and was successful. Her policies flowed from those principles. There will be time to formulate other policies that can do the same for the country as a whole.
Interesting.

The early presidents and patriots were generally Deists or Unitarians, believing in some form of impersonal Providence but rejecting the divinity of Jesus and the absurdities of the Old and New testaments.

Thomas Paine was a pamphleteer whose manifestos encouraged the faltering spirits of the country and aided materially in winning the war of Independence:
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
[SIZE=-1]From: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, pp. 8,9 (Republished 1984, Prometheus Books, Buffalo, NY)[/SIZE]
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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except for the fact she left before her term was over.
Oh my. No one has ever committed such a heinous crime, have they?
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