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He's not a full blown secular fundamentalist neo-lib, yet. He is NOT however a true conservative in any way, shape or form. Yesterday he basically insulted everyone who got him elected.
finally one thing I can agree with president Vader on, I also insult everybody who voted for him
The joy of impeachment and removal is that Congress can remove the President whenever they feel like it for whatever they feel like. Removal is not a judicial process, it's a political one. As such, the House can pass articles saying, "We don't like you," hand them to the Senate, and then the Senate votes on it. If 2/3 of the Senate don't like him either, he's out.
"High crimes and misdemeanors," are whatever Congress says they are. I think they could easily get Bush on charges of falsely informing Congress of matters of national security and it's the one issue that really got Congress POed at him. Not only did he sink his own administration, but he took down his party with it by giving Congress false intelligence and abusing the extraordinary powers given to him in the Patriot Act. In short, if glib, wording, Bush damaged Congress by causing his party to lose both houses and making everyone who followed him to war at high risk for losing their cushy jobs. Now they have to work to stay in office and think of ways to recant their previously vocal support. Make the people angry? Meh. Make Congress angry? Now THAT is impeachable.
I am cynical enough to say that I don't see Congress doing anything so long as some other issue rears its head. Unless Bush really screws-up or some other highly damaging action is discovered and he loses the last of his credibility and becomes literally incapable of maintaining any quorum, Congress will just continue to chide him and distance themselves from him. The Dems have no reason to impeach him. He's their biggest asset in 2008 and will keep him in office, if possible, to remind everyone of just what this Republican president did to the country and why we should all now vote for the Democrats.
It's grotesque but seems to be the only reason he's still around.
And as to the whole Dark Side thing, I think Bush thinks whatever he's told to think. Since he was a boy he's been groomed to follow the advice of Bush family retainers and allies. He doesn't have an original idea in his head. He leads by the counsel of others.
Leading by the counsel of others is not necessarily a bad thing, plenty of Presidents have done it, but as Harry Truman said, "The buck stops here." At some point a President has to decide what his position will be, no matter what his handlers and underlings say. Some Presidents have greatly angered some very powerful underlings too. It takes balls to stand-up to the people who helped put you in power, but at the end of the day, it's your name in the history books and it's your signature and voice commanding the fate of the world.
The wisdom of a President has to be one that can judge between two very wise men telling him two completely different things about the same issue. Sadly, Bush's wise men are merely mediocre and he has neither the wisdom to decide upon counsel they offer nor even the wisdom to see that they are mediocre.
Even when his father threw him a lifesaver, he wasn't bright enough to see it for what it was.
I am wondering if President Bush has decided to become a Liberal or has he always been one? I am trying to think of one conservative thing he has done for this country and I cannot. Heck, it was even Hillary who gave a speech demanding we go to war in Iraq, because she felt Iraq was a threat based on her own seperate sources.
Now the President wants to pass this insane amnesty bill and says anyone who oposses it is anti-American. I submit now that President Bush may possibly have been a Liberal from the beginning and has been working with left in an effort to destroy the Republican party.
Will the real conservatives please stand up and fight for our country, before it is too late.
He has always been somewhat liberal. And I agree his amnesty bill will destroy the republican party.
I guess the only thing I can think of that he has done that's conservative is make it harder for poor people to declair bankruptcy.
He has always been somewhat liberal. And I agree his amnesty bill will destroy the republican party.
I guess the only thing I can think of that he has done that's conservative is make it harder for poor people to declair bankruptcy.
Please, Once again.....Call us liberals what you want, but please please please don't say Bush belongs to us. I can take just about anything, but I don't want that moron playing for our side. YOU broke it (with your vote), You own it.
Please, Once again.....Call us liberals what you want, but please please please don't say Bush belongs to us. I can take just about anything, but I don't want that moron playing for our side. YOU broke it (with your vote), You own it.
Definitely... this cabal has been at it since the Nixon Administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.), so any attempts to say that Bush isn't a "real Republican" is bunk. The GOP created him, the GOP elected and enabled him, and the GOP owns him. He is the fruition of a long-term strategy.
Please pay better attention to what we're saying, please. We are saying that he is not a conservative. He is absolutely more liberal than he is conservative. No one deny's that he's a republican. Republican has nothing to do with it. If you guys have noticed there are many, many disenfranchised republicans out there who refer to themselves as conservatives, not republicans, myself included. Unfortunately since we are a defacto 2 party system and no one has had the temerity to start the ACP (American Conservative Party) by default to protect this nation from the policies and idealogies of the left we vote republican, just as you feel the exact same way but opposite and vote dem.
I would prefer 4 parties; reps, dems, socialists and conservatives. Most reps are conservatives and most dems are socialists, this board lends evidence to both of these statements. Both party nominees will have to pander to those factions of each party in order to get the nominee. However, you will always have your RINOS, i.e Shwarzanegger, Specter and Giuliani as wells as your DINOS, i.e Lieberman, Zell Miller and Baye. A 4 party system would allow people to find a viable party in which they really agree with.
At least we have finally found common ground. No one wants to claim Bush. lol
Please pay better attention to what we're saying, please. We are saying that he is not a conservative. He is absolutely more liberal than he is conservative. No one deny's that he's a republican. Republican has nothing to do with it. If you guys have noticed there are many, many disenfranchised republicans out there who refer to themselves as conservatives, not republicans, myself included. Unfortunately since we are a defacto 2 party system and no one has had the temerity to start the ACP (American Conservative Party) by default to protect this nation from the policies and idealogies of the left we vote republican, just as you feel the exact same way but opposite and vote dem.
I would prefer 4 parties; reps, dems, socialists and conservatives. Most reps are conservatives and most dems are socialists, this board lends evidence to both of these statements. Both party nominees will have to pander to those factions of each party in order to get the nominee. However, you will always have your RINOS, i.e Shwarzanegger, Specter and Giuliani as wells as your DINOS, i.e Lieberman, Zell Miller and Baye. A 4 party system would allow people to find a viable party in which they really agree with.
At least we have finally found common ground. No one wants to claim Bush. lol
Ok....I agree with most of that, and laughed at the punch line. I can not find one thing that I have ever agreed with bush on. Remember, just because a republican or conservative does not agree with bush, does not mean that it is a dem or liberal point of view. We don't like anything he does, its just happens that conservatives happen to agree with us more and more these days on the common ground that he is terrible. So hes not really a Divider anymore. United we stand against Bush. He finally brought us all together, like no president has ever done before.
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