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Old 02-18-2010, 10:09 AM
 
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It wasn't enough for Congress to kill off the public option. Now they want to kill us directly by trying to outlaw nutritious food supplements ... again. The corporate medical industry is doing everything they can to keep the American people from having any option besides their over-priced and often harmful health "care", when they aren't denying coverage altogether that is.

Senators McCain and Dorgan have just introduced yet another thinly veiled attempt to criminalize ordinary vitamin pills, proposing give the FDA the power to preemptively and without cause restrict their distribution, deceptively entitled the Dietary Supplement Safety Act, S. 3002. This is the same FDA that routinely waves through dangerous synthetic drugs that kill hundreds of thousands, hardly a recommendation for their administrative prowess. Yet millions of people take natural vitamins and other food supplements in complete safety already. Where is the epidemic of vitamin pill fatalities? There is none.



Beware of McCain's Freedom-Destroying Dietary Supplement Regulatory Bill
- Beware of McCain's Freedom-Destroying Dietary Supplement Regulatory Bill (http://www.jbs.org/health-care-freedom-blog/5957-proposed-dietary-supplement-regulatory-bill- - broken link)


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Reject S. 3002 DSSA, The Food Supplement Criminalization Act
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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It wasn't enough for Congress to kill off the public option. Now they want to kill us directly by trying to outlaw nutritious food supplements ... again. The corporate medical industry is doing everything they can to keep the American people from having any option besides their over-priced and often harmful health "care", when they aren't denying coverage altogether that is.

Senators McCain and Dorgan have just introduced yet another thinly veiled attempt to criminalize ordinary vitamin pills, proposing give the FDA the power to preemptively and without cause restrict their distribution, deceptively entitled the Dietary Supplement Safety Act, S. 3002. This is the same FDA that routinely waves through dangerous synthetic drugs that kill hundreds of thousands, hardly a recommendation for their administrative prowess. Yet millions of people take natural vitamins and other food supplements in complete safety already. Where is the epidemic of vitamin pill fatalities? There is none.



Beware of McCain's Freedom-Destroying Dietary Supplement Regulatory Bill
- Beware of McCain's Freedom-Destroying Dietary Supplement Regulatory Bill (http://www.jbs.org/health-care-freedom-blog/5957-proposed-dietary-supplement-regulatory-bill- - broken link)


Read The FAX Petition
Reject S. 3002 DSSA, The Food Supplement Criminalization Act
Apparently you have never heard of hydroxy-cut? Or all the herbal pills that enlarge your penis?

Basically, the LEGITIMATE vitamin and herbal supplement market has become a booming business over the past few decades and is unregulated.

This has opened the door to scammers that sell liver damaging stuff like hydroxy cut not to mention all the cases where con-men have found out they can make small fortunes selling 10-cent vitamin pills for $5 each by claiming they give you a larger weenie or breasts etc.

There are also a number of fake vitamins and supplements on the market. Nothing like selling $3 of placebos to someone for $50 by putting a fake label on the bottle.

So, ironically, this bill could be HELPFUL to the herbal supplement folks in weeding out the fakes?
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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Apparently you have never heard of hydroxy-cut? Or all the herbal pills that enlarge your penis?

Basically, the LEGITIMATE vitamin and herbal supplement market has become a booming business over the past few decades and is unregulated.

This has opened the door to scammers that sell liver damaging stuff like hydroxy cut not to mention all the cases where con-men have found out they can make small fortunes selling 10-cent vitamin pills for $5 each by claiming they give you a larger weenie or breasts etc.

There are also a number of fake vitamins and supplements on the market. Nothing like selling $3 of placebos to someone for $50 by putting a fake label on the bottle.

So, ironically, this bill could be HELPFUL to the herbal supplement folks in weeding out the fakes?
Your points would be well taken if it were not for the fact that this would adversely affect legitimate and helpful supplements. The hypocrisy of the legislation is what I find bizarre and over the top. Big pharma is literally getting away with murder and the corruption is blatant. If they do not crack down on them too, this bill is ridiculous and obvious in its real intent. In other countries, they are not even allowed to advertise their drugs on TV.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:08 AM
 
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Tell Big Pharma...Enough Already!
You need to jot an email to obama and the democrats, since they are the ones would jumped in bed with Pharma in the hopes of getting obamacare passed.

Obama made some really good deals...for Big Pharma, that is.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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I am trying to figure out how Big Pharma comes into play here. This is a bill that would put restrictions on supplements which some do need restricting. People have died because of the claims made from fly by night companies that claim to solve all of peoples problems with one little pill. There should be studies that are required before a company can make certain claims. They should have to prove that their supplements are safe. Nothing wrong there.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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I am trying to figure out how Big Pharma comes into play here. This is a bill that would put restrictions on supplements which some do need restricting. People have died because of the claims made from fly by night companies that claim to solve all of peoples problems with one little pill. There should be studies that are required before a company can make certain claims. They should have to prove that their supplements are safe. Nothing wrong there.
Like Pharmaceutical companies
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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The FDA, Big Pharma, and the AMA have been trying to destroy the natural medicine movement forever. The AMA all but eliminated Naturopathic Medical schools decades ago.

They are also attempting to destroy mental health. The more people popping pills to get better the money they all make.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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Like Pharmaceutical companies

This law has ZERO to do with Big Pharma. It is an attempt to protect people but hey if you need a big bad wolf fine blame Pharma.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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From an older article, as this has been ongoing...

This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements "legal" while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA. It is the latest action item by the FDA / Big Pharma conspiracy that will not stop until health freedom has been abolished, drug companies rule the nation, and every citizen is diagnosed with a fictitious disease and drugged up on monopoly-priced pharmaceuticals.

Alert: FDA Attempting to Regulate Supplements, Herbs and Juices as "Drugs"
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:47 PM
 
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This law has ZERO to do with Big Pharma. It is an attempt to protect people but hey if you need a big bad wolf fine blame Pharma.



You said they should be forced to prove claims and safety. I simply pointed out pharmaceutical companies do not do that so why should others be forced to?
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