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Your ignorance must be blissful. The military is also a tool for natural disasters to be used to save lives and help rebuild communities and restore order. But all you see is the typical liberal anti-military viewpoint. Surprised you didn't throw in the standard "baby killers" or "Murderers" insults.
OK, then, the military is a bunch of baby killers and murderers. Happy now?
The military is a waste of human resources. It exploits fear and encourages division just to maintain its existence. It uses people's intellects and skills to develop more ways of killing people for a goal that so far, over thousands of years, remains elusive: peace. It rapes people of their idea of self in order to support the evil actions of those at the top by claiming that its enemies should be common to us all. It creates a distortion of patriotism and sells this lie to people who get so brainwashed that they forget that they themselves are expendable in the process. It convinces people that death makes one a hero while simultaneously demonizing other cultures for their suicide attackers. It is the biggest waste of money that could possibly exist. It is the worst performing investment imaginable.
Learning to live without a military would be the biggest peace-making event ever undertaken by mankind. We'd have to learn how to live with each other or go down the same road again and experience all the pain and suffering that it caused. The question is, are we wise enough to make that decision? Or do I smell napalm in the wind? It's not human nature to be at war, IT'S A CHOICE. And right now, the militaries of the world, run by the most evil people in the world, have become expert at making that choice for us.
OK, then, the military is a bunch of baby killers and murderers. Happy now?
The military is a waste of human resources. It exploits fear and encourages division just to maintain its existence. It uses people's intellects and skills to develop more ways of killing people for a goal that so far, over thousands of years, remains elusive: peace. It rapes people of their idea of self in order to support the evil actions of those at the top by claiming that its enemies should be common to us all. It creates a distortion of patriotism and sells this lie to people who get so brainwashed that they forget that they themselves are expendable in the process. It convinces people that death makes one a hero while simultaneously demonizing other cultures for their suicide attackers. It is the biggest waste of money that could possibly exist. It is the worst performing investment imaginable.
Learning to live without a military would be the biggest peace-making event ever undertaken by mankind. We'd have to learn how to live with each other or go down the same road again and experience all the pain and suffering that it caused. The question is, are we wise enough to make that decision? Or do I smell napalm in the wind? It's not human nature to be at war, IT'S A CHOICE.
For there to be no war, then all parties involve must agree to not want war. Back in WW2, England and France didn't want war but Germany did. It's all well and good to sit in a circle smoking dope and singing songs of peace, love, and harmony right up until someone comes to cut your throat and throw you in a mass grave.
Prepare for war, but pray for peace.
The military has become an expensive, glorified jobs program. We are not any safer because of the wars started in Iraq and Afghanistan, and in fact, a great argument could be made that these wars have made us less safe. Terrorism is a real threat, but it's a threat that is best dealt with through law enforcement and intelligence tactics, not wide-scale military action.
At a time when the American people, led by the Tea Partiers, are very worried about out of control government spending, there seems to be little discussion about one of the biggest culprits: the military! It's time for Americans to wake up and stop regarding the issue as a third rail. There is so much wasteful spending, from $600 plungers, to ridiculous government contracts for shadow defense forces like Blackwater, that we cannot go on much longer like this.
Anyone interested in further reading, simply look up "Military-Industrial Complex," a term that was coined by departing President Eisenhower and something that has been written about ad nauseum in the decades since.
I do agree there is a lot of waste in the military and we could improve on that. However, it is difficult to make people take better care of the money they did not work for and they are not spending the taxpayer money wisely.
However, there is one point we need to keep in mind. We are a superpower. Usually to be a superpowe does have it pros and cons. To stay a superpower does demand certain responsibilities and rights and priviledges. Some are not so desirable though.
Being a superpower does provide many advantages to us as citizens. I am sure that if we spot a superpower many will complain about the good things we enjoyed as citizens.
So what do many of us want? That is a question each one of us has to answer. Even then if we get what we want we may later realize we did not like the consequences.
There is a political affairs principles I believe is very true:
Friendship binds men but national interests binds countries.
We have our national interests and they are a big influence as to how we handle our affairs around the world and being a superpower does give us an edge in protecting our interests. I agree that along the way we do not like some of the the things we as a nation do.
For there to be no war, then all parties involve must agree to not want war. Back in WW2, England and France didn't want war but Germany did. It's all well and good to sit in a circle smoking dope and singing songs of peace, love, and harmony right up until someone comes to cut your throat and throw you in a mass grave.
Prepare for war, but pray for peace.
The error in this thinking is that all energies spent preparing for war actually manifest the war. The universe isn't stupid. If you prepare for something, if you can create it in your mind, the physical universe will oblige your intentions. Such is the nature of creation.
Praying for peace is also useless. The act of praying, of asking something else, some God somewhere to do something is the ultimate sign of weakness because it supposes that the praying individual doesn't have the power himself. Praying puts the power to create a desired outcome outside of the self. It displays an utter lack of self-confidence.
The only way for their to be no war is for there to be no participants. Sure, Germany may have wanted war, but then why did everyone else have to participate? It's still a choice. Withdraw all conscious and/or unconscious consent and watch the thing wither and die. Focus on it, prepare for it, and watch it grow before your eyes.
May I respectfully suggest that you're wasting your time. Only fools deny the complete record of history that there is a resident evil in man that must be protected against. Historians document it, psychiatrists study it, fools deny it. No more need be said.
There are a few things we can cut before we hit on the Military.
Foreign aid to countries that are less than loyal friends.
The fat we can cut from the Military budget? We could start with all those add on's our elected reps add to the budget that the Military didn't ask for and never wanted.
Some view the Military as a bunch of uneducated misfits that can't make it anywhere else. They watch a lot of movies I guess.
In reality the Military builds quite a few good leaders as well as great civilian employees. There is a reason many big Corporations give vets a preference. We tend to be very consistent reliable employees.
The Military delivers in times of crisis. Name a natural disaster and the Military has been called to duty.
Is the Coast Guard a waste? How many lives do they save each year?
Wild fires burning out of control? How many times do we call the troops in?
The Navy has mapped the ocean floors and finances Oceanographic research.
Looking at history. After WWI we downsized. Invested no real money in up grades. We paid for this mistake with American lives.
After WWII we downsized. We paid for this with American lives.
Vietnam we didn't have the right tools or enough of them. Once again paid for in American lives.
Medicine? How much of today's Trauma care is a direct result of the medicine learned and practiced by the Military? Plastic surgery? Yep advanced and perfected through the Military.
Yes no doubt about it. The Military does nothing for society.
Wow, this has to be the worst possible reply to this topic I've ever seen. So, instead of fighting for their lives, England should have just sat back and let the Germans come in, take over their country, execute anyone they felt like executing and not raise a single finger to stop the mass murder? That's it! I'm putting you on the ignore list.
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The error in this thinking is that all energies spent preparing for war actually manifest the war. The universe isn't stupid. If you prepare for something, if you can create it in your mind, the physical universe will oblige your intentions. Such is the nature of creation.
Praying for peace is also useless. The act of praying, of asking something else, some God somewhere to do something is the ultimate sign of weakness because it supposes that the praying individual doesn't have the power himself. Praying puts the power to create a desired outcome outside of the self. It displays an utter lack of self-confidence.
The only way for their to be no war is for there to be no participants. Sure, Germany may have wanted war, but then why did everyone else have to participate? It's still a choice. Withdraw all conscious and/or unconscious consent and watch the thing wither and die. Focus on it, prepare for it, and watch it grow before your eyes.
Actually, the argument makes a lot of sense, when you understand why the terrorists behave the way they do.
Which is yet another reason why it doesn't make sense. Sorry but clearly you do not understand why. If you think it's because we went in there "guns a blazing" then why 9/11 in the first place? They already hated us, period. For a variety of reasons. Hard core. If we hadn't invaded Iraq, they would still hate us anyway (Afghanistan is obvious even to them after 9/11). Their culture and mindset is radically different than ours - frankly few in this country even begin to comprehend it (not that I am saying I am the world's leading authority). And I applauded being - for once - PRO-active vs reactive - but the war(s) have dragged on and on and while they have put these POSs back on their heels, the idea of any of starting up and maintaining a democracy in these countries is absolutely absurd.
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As for my comment about it being a jobs program, let's be honest, like any government run organization, the military has become very politicized, to the point we special interests have taken over and it's no longer completely about defending this country.
The military has always been a political "ball" - that hardly makes it a "glorified jobs program."
OK, then, the military is a bunch of baby killers and murderers. Happy now?
The military is a waste of human resources. It exploits fear and encourages division just to maintain its existence. It uses people's intellects and skills to develop more ways of killing people for a goal that so far, over thousands of years, remains elusive: peace. It rapes people of their idea of self in order to support the evil actions of those at the top by claiming that its enemies should be common to us all. It creates a distortion of patriotism and sells this lie to people who get so brainwashed that they forget that they themselves are expendable in the process. It convinces people that death makes one a hero while simultaneously demonizing other cultures for their suicide attackers. It is the biggest waste of money that could possibly exist. It is the worst performing investment imaginable.
Learning to live without a military would be the biggest peace-making event ever undertaken by mankind. We'd have to learn how to live with each other or go down the same road again and experience all the pain and suffering that it caused. The question is, are we wise enough to make that decision? Or do I smell napalm in the wind? It's not human nature to be at war, IT'S A CHOICE. And right now, the militaries of the world, run by the most evil people in the world, have become expert at making that choice for us.
LMAO
Thanks, that was so mind-numbingly stupid it was camp, and so one of the funniest things I've read in a long time! Kinda like watching the old Batman TV series or something.
POW! BIFF! SOCKO!
"Holy colossal ignorance Batman! It's Mr Hippie up to his old tricks! Look out, he's throwing one of the old Militaryisevil bombs!"
"No fear old chum; those things haven't caused any real damage since the mid-70s."
Wow, this has to be the worst possible reply to this topic I've ever seen. So, instead of fighting for their lives, England should have just sat back and let the Germans come in, take over their country, execute anyone they felt like executing and not raise a single finger to stop the mass murder? That's it! I'm putting you on the ignore list.
You serious? This is classic stuff! I never expected to be so entertained.
Was it over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor? Who's with me???
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Absolutely classic stuff. Thanks!
