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View Poll Results: Is voting for the health care bill on a Sunday an "affront to God"?
Yes 14 22.95%
No 46 75.41%
Not sure 1 1.64%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-18-2010, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Wow...seems like the bible thumping, conversative, tea bagging right can't defend this one.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:19 PM
 
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I agree with that. God only wants the rich to have health care. He wants everybody else to suffer. It is in the Bible : Come Unto Me Little Children And I Shall Give You Cancer So That Ye May Suffer Greatly. The is in the King Jimmy Conservative Bible.
I walk around town in the evenings with my KJV1611 in my right hand, a pistol tucked in my belt, and I rail about homosexuals and socialists to anyone within earshot! I am so blessed by Him!

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Old 03-18-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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We once when househunting and signed a contract on a house on Sunday. I will try my best to never let that happen again. That house purchase was a nightmare from day one. We ended up selling it and losing about $9,000 on the sale.

Our country is run by a bunch of heathens. They would do better to get down on their knees and pray than to be trying to make laws on Sunday. Especially when a majority of the people in the country do not want this health bill passed. I saw the statistics tonight and 48% do not want the bill passed and 38% do. I am surprised that many people in the United States want us to change to communism and this health bill will be the first step to that.

So it must be the HEATHENS that either have to choose between paying their mortgage or health insurance?
It must only be thousands of HEATHENS that die everyday because they cannot afford health services?
If its true that 48% do not want it, it is only because they have been lied to & misled.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:21 PM
 
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We once when househunting and signed a contract on a house on Sunday. I will try my best to never let that happen again. That house purchase was a nightmare from day one. We ended up selling it and losing about $9,000 on the sale.
Not sure what that has to do with health care legislation, unless you're trying to make the dubious claim that "God" frowns on making business deals on Sundays.

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I am surprised that many people in the United States want us to change to communism and this health bill will be the first step to that.
And I am surprised that many people use the word "Communism" when they obviously don't know the definition of the word.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I agree with that. God only wants the rich to have health care. He wants everybody else to suffer. It is in the Bible : Come Unto Me Little Children And I Shall Give You Cancer So That Ye May Suffer Greatly. The is in the King Jimmy Conservative Bible.
I think you misunderstand the source of the problem.

WHAT is the source of skyrocketing cost to buy medical care?

Government.

Who else but government created:
[] inflation,
[] malpractice tort abuse (whose costs shift to the customer),
[] "defensive" medicine,
[] administrative overload (which requires an office staff - at our expense),
[] restriction and regulatory abuse,
[] taxation (which migrates to the retail price for buying care), and
[] bureaucracy costs.

What was fairly inexpensive*, before 1935, has grown into a gargantuan behemoth. (When did a physician begin to need an office staff to handle all the paperwork?)

(*I refer to the proliferation of private charity hospitals and clinics, supported by their respective donors - often religious in nature. )

There is no such thing as a free lunch, and no "public option" will lower costs, nor improve health care for the masses, nor reform the industry that government has warped.

Ask any physician if he could lower his fees if he had zero income taxes, minimal administrative costs, and no malpractice insurance?

Why not enact tort reform?
Let's have "Satisfaction guaranteed, or your money back - and nothing more!"

Of course, such a policy would anger the lawyers, whose livelihood relies on filing suit.

But that's what is missing from the "Reform" bill...

Honesty.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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Obama wants the vote to take place on Sunday because God didn't vote for him.. He's a smart crook, but he couldn't fool God...!
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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obama wants the vote to take place on sunday because god didn't vote for him.. He's a smart crook, but he couldn't fool god...!
wtf?
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:39 PM
 
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Why not enact tort reform?
Let's have "Satisfaction guaranteed, or your money back - and nothing more!"
Let us consider this notion for a moment.... I go in for, say, LASIK. The doctor makes a provable, preventable mistake, and I'm blinded for life. Under your plan, the end result would be "Here's your $4000 back. Sorry you're blind, those are the breaks. Have a nice day." In what manner would this be considered equitable?

Some degree of reform is needed, no doubt. However, I don't think "money back only" is any better.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:42 PM
 
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Why not enact tort reform?
In states where tort reform has been enacted, it's done nothing to drive down the costs of health care. It benefits doctors, and no one else.

It's lunacy to think that we should take away or limit a patient's right to sue for malpractice.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:04 PM
 
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In states where tort reform has been enacted, it's done nothing to drive down the costs of health care. It benefits doctors, and no one else.

It's lunacy to think that we should take away or limit a patient's right to sue for malpractice.
You are right - we did tort reform in Texas....yet our health care costs have skyrocketed along with everyone elses. So much for that argument.
This is why the far right is busy re-writing the bible - to edit out all of that compassion for your fellow man that Jesus taught. Let's face it - if Jesus were to come back today, the far right would crucify him in about 30 minutes. I would think that the real affront to God would be letting people die because they didn't have health insurance. They must know a different God.
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